2.1.1 Applications Open Area Meeting (apparea)

Current Meeting Report

apparea minutes from ietf57

Date: Monday, July 14th
Time: 09:00-11:30

Chair: Ted Hardie

Scribe: Marshall Rose

1.  Hardie - Administrativa

Ned Freed was unable to attend due to a personal matter.

2. Wasserman - IPv4 survey

A draft has been written surveying the use of IPv4 addressing 
information in applications.  There are 9 documents in the 
applications area that have dependencies.  The most important are:

Email: 821/822/2822
NTP: 1305
LDAP/NIS: 2307

Action items:

- all: please review and comment on the draft
- randy: to become a co-author
- pete resnick: to review 822/2822 issues
- chris newman: to review MX issues and 821 issues
- scott: to become a co-author of 
draft-shin-v6ops-application-transition
- kurt zeilenga: to review 2307 issues
- john klensin/paul hoffman: to review documents to go to historic

3. Newman - International Search and Sort

We need a comparator registry.

draft-new-il8n-comparator provides a description and also defines an 
initial set of comparators for the utf8 world

Mailing list: ietf-comparator@imc.org

Action items:

- paul hoffman/kurt zeilenga/lisa dusseault/yuri demchenko to help


4. Kohler - DCCP

Briefly: dccp = udp + congestion control (initially, two: tcp-like and 
trfc) Key insight: dccp separates congestion and corruption events.

Biggest impact on applications is loss of control when data is sent.

home page: http://www.icir.org/kohler/dccp/

Design review to be held on Wednesday, July 16th.

5. Yee - Using SASL in HTTP/1.1

Adding SASL to HTTP/1.1 adds "plugability" to the HTTP security 
framework.

Several design decisions made to avoid interference with the HTTP 
infrastructure.

Mailing list: http-sasl@isode.com

There is some concern that the initial round-trip required to trigger a 
SASL negotiation (i.e., if the server requires it, but the client 
doesn't know) may compromise security.

6. Hardie - BOFs, WG news

No apps bofs at this IETF meeting.

There will be a food-fight in the lemonade working group (Thursday, July 
17th) regarding the security implications of 
draft-crispin-imap-url-auth

Geopriv is starting to branch in.

Slides

IPv4 Dependencies in Applications Area Specifications
International Searching and Sorting
Adding SASL to HTTP/1.1
Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP): Overview