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Date and time 2017-09-14 14:00
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minutes-interim-2017-iesg-19-201709141400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 14, 2017 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Ignas Bagdonas / Scribe
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Suzanne Woolf / IAB Liaison

REGRETS 
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Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe


OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
Ben Kaduk
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 31, 2017 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 17, 2017 and August 31, 2017 
Teleconferences were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in 
the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 31, 2017 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-homenet-dot-14  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pce-pceps-18  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Action
  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm-14  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Spencer Dawkins to produce a draft e-mail and wiki text for the BOF 
    Wiki, describing "maps and gaps."
  o Deborah Brungard to find a designated expert for RFC 8227 [IANA 
    #981088].
  o Alia Atlas to find designated expert(s) for RFC 7557 [IANA #971118].

IN PROGRESS:
  NONE

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-etree-13  - IETF stream
    E-TREE Support in EVPN & PBB-EVPN (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 6
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-mrt-06  - IETF stream
    LDP Extensions to Support Maximally Redundant Trees (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 6
    Token: Deborah Brungard

Alia Atlas formally recused herself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by 
Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group submission 
Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-ext-info-13  - IETF stream
    Extension Negotiation in Secure Shell (SSH) (Proposed Standard) - 3 
    of 6
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adam Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-modp-dh-sha2-07  - IETF stream
    More Modular Exponential (MODP) Diffie-Hellman (DH) Key Exchange
    (KEX) Groups for Secure Shell (SSH) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 6
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Eric Rescorla. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-curdle-ssh-dh-group-exchange-05  - IETF stream
    Increase SSH minimum recommended DH modulus size to 2048 bits
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 6
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Eric Rescorla. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-curdle-des-des-des-die-die-die-04  - IETF stream
    Deprecate 3DES and RC4 in Kerberos (Best Current Practice) - 6 of 6
    Token: Eric Rescorla

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items   
  o draft-ietf-rmcat-coupled-cc-06  - IETF stream
    Coupled congestion control for RTP media (Experimental) - 1 of 3
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Mirja Kuehlewind. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-08  - IETF stream
    On the Usage of Transport Features Provided by IETF Transport
    Protocols (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-taps-transports-usage-udp-06  - IETF stream
    Features of the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) and Lightweight UDP
    (UDP- Lite) Transport Protocols (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-schmitt-ipfix-tiny-01
    IETF conflict review for draft-schmitt-ipfix-tiny
      draft-schmitt-ipfix-tiny-03
      TinyIPFIX for smart meters in constrained networks (ISE:
    Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Benoit Claise

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Benoit Claise.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o DNS Over HTTPS (doh) - 1 of 1
    Area: ART (Adam Roach)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (September 28, 2017).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Network File System Version 4 (nfsv4) - 1 of 1
    Area: TSV (Spencer Dawkins)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Benoit Claise.*  

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Discussion of Valimail offer to analyze DMARC reports for 
       ietf.org domain (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.2 [IANA #982196] Designated expert for RFC 8175 (Amanda Baber / 
       IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Stan Ratliff 
<sratliff@idirect.net> and Rick Taylor <rick.taylor.external@airbus.com> 
as the designated experts for RFC 8175.

   6.3 [IANA #981088] Designated expert for RFC 8227 (Deborah Brungard)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Weiqiang Cheng 
<chengweiqiang@chinamobile.com> and Jie Dong <jie.dong@huawei.com> as 
the designated experts for RFC 8277.

   6.4 [IANA #971118] Designated expert for RFC 7557 (Alia Atlas)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Juliusz Chroboczek 
<jch@irif.fr> and Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> as the designated 
experts for RFC 7557.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.