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Date and time 2017-08-31 14:00
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minutes-interim-2017-iesg-18-201708311400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 31, 2017 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Ignas Bagdonas / Scribe
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Suzanne Woolf / IAB Liaison

REGRETS 
---------------------------------
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe


OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
Niels ten Oever


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 17, 2017 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 17, 2017 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-lsp-ping-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-xattrs-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-rfc3107bis-04  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-nottingham-rfc5988bis-08  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Alia Atlas to find designated expert(s) for RFC 7557 [IANA #971118].
  o Spencer Dawkins to produce a draft e-mail and wiki text for the BOF 
    Wiki, describing "maps and gaps."

NEW:
  o Deborah Brungard to find a designated expert for RFC 8227 [IANA 
    #981088].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered-08  - IETF stream
    RPKI Validation Reconsidered (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Alvaro Retana

Warren Kumari formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Ben Campbell and Terry Manderson.*

  o draft-ietf-homenet-dot-13  - IETF stream
    Special Use Domain 'home.arpa.' (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 9
    Token: Terry Manderson

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-10  - IETF stream
    PCEP Extensions for PCE-initiated LSP Setup in a Stateful PCE Model
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Spencer Dawkins.*

  o draft-ietf-pals-p2mp-pw-03  - IETF stream
    Signaling Root-Initiated Point-to-Multipoint Pseudowire using LDP
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan and Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-rfc6006bis-03  - IETF stream
    Extensions to the Path Computation Element Communication Protocol
    (PCEP) for Point-to-Multipoint Traffic Engineering Label Switched
    Paths (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 9
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-teas-lsp-diversity-08  - IETF stream
    Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic Engineering (RSVP-TE) Path
    Diversity using Exclude Route (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Deborah Brungard confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ospf-encapsulation-cap-06  - IETF stream
    Advertising Tunneling Capability in OSPF (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 
    9
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise and Suresh Krishnan.*

  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-ndata-12  - IETF stream
    Stream Schedulers and User Message Interleaving for the Stream
    Control Transmission Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 9
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Spencer Dawkins confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc5667bis-13  - IETF stream
    Network File System (NFS) Upper Layer Binding To RPC-Over-RDMA
    Version 1 (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 9
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items   
  o draft-weis-gdoi-rekey-ack-06  - IETF stream
    GDOI GROUPKEY-PUSH Acknowledgement Message (Proposed Standard) - 1 
    of 1
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adam Roach.*

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-teas-pce-central-control-04  - IETF stream
    An Architecture for Use of PCE and PCEP in a Network with Central
    Control (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-mile-iodef-guidance-10  - IETF stream
    IODEF Usage Guidance (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Kathleen Moriarty confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-irtf-hrpc-research-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-hrpc-research
      draft-irtf-hrpc-research-14
      Research into Human Rights Protocol Considerations (IRTF:
    Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Spencer Dawkins.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-schmitt-ipfix-tiny-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-schmitt-ipfix-tiny
      draft-schmitt-ipfix-tiny-03
      TinyIPFIX for smart meters in constrained networks (ISE:
    Informational)
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was assigned to Benoit Claise for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 [IANA #979000] Management Item: Socks Method Request (Michelle 
       Cotton/IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the request to 
update the Socks Method Value registry. The registration procedure for 
this registry will be IESG approval.

   6.2 [IANA #981088] Designated expert for RFC 8227 (Amanda Baber / 
       IANA)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action item: Deborah Brungard to find a designated expert for RFC 8227 
[IANA #981088].

   6.3 [IANA #979403] Upcoming Parameter Expiration: Early IANA 
       Allocation for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewal of the 
early IANA allocation for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid.

   6.4 [IANA #979404] Upcoming Parameter Expiration: Early IANA 
       Allocation for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved renewal of the 
early IANA allocation for draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.