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Date and time 2017-03-16 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the March 16, 2017 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Ignas Bagdonas / Scribe
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / incoming Operations and Management Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / incoming Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Robert Sparks (Oracle) / IAB Liaison
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
---------------------------------
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe


OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the March 2, 2017 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the March 2, 2017 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the March 2, 2017 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-sidr-delta-protocol-08  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-trill-directory-assist-mechanisms-12  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
 NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Kathleen Moriarty to find a designated expert for RFC 8053 [IANA 
   #947409].
 o Kathleen Moriarty to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-httpauth-
   mutual-11 [IANA #950217].

IN PROGRESS:
 NONE

NEW:
 o Benoit Claise and Joel Jaeggli to find a designated expert for RFC 
   7854 [IANA #953567].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
 o draft-ietf-jsonbis-rfc7159bis-03 - IETF stream
   The JavaScript Object Notation (JSON) Data Interchange Format
   (Internet Standard) - 1 of 12
   Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov.*

 o draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc4307bis-17  - IETF stream
   Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for IKEv2
   (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 12
   Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement that includes an IANA note once Kathleen Moriarty confirms 
that the announcement is ready to be sent.

 o draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-18  - IETF stream
   PCEP Extensions for Stateful PCE (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 12
   Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-dime-load-08  - IETF stream
   Diameter Load Information Conveyance (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 12
   Token: Stephen Farrell

Ben Campbell formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by 
Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send a working group submission 
Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-dime-agent-overload-10  - IETF stream
   Diameter Agent Overload and the Peer Overload Report (Proposed
   Standard) - 5 of 12
   Token: Stephen Farrell

Ben Campbell formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by 
Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send a working group submission 
Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-pce-stateful-sync-optimizations-09  - IETF stream
   Optimizations of Label Switched Path State Synchronization
   Procedures for a Stateful PCE (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 12
   Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-ext-12  - IETF stream
   Extensions to the Path Computation Element communication Protocol
   (PCEP) for Inter-Layer MPLS and GMPLS Traffic Engineering (Proposed
   Standard) - 7 of 12
   Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-lmap-yang-11  - IETF stream
   A YANG Data Model for LMAP Measurement Agents (Proposed Standard) - 
   8 of 12
   Token: Alissa Cooper

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise and Mirja Kuehlewind.*

 o draft-ietf-lmap-information-model-17  - IETF stream
   Information Model for Large-Scale Measurement Platforms (LMAP)
   (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 12
   Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alissa Cooper. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-grow-mrt-add-paths-03  - IETF stream
   Multi-Threaded Routing Toolkit (MRT) Routing Information Export
   Format with BGP Additional Paths Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 10 
   of 12
   Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-ipsecme-rfc7321bis-05  - IETF stream
   Cryptographic Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage
   Guidance for Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) and Authentication
   Header (AH) (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 12
   Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Kathleen Moriarty confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

 o draft-ietf-tls-rfc4492bis-15  - IETF stream
   Elliptic Curve Cryptography (ECC) Cipher Suites for Transport Layer
   Security (TLS) Versions 1.2 and Earlier (Proposed Standard) - 12 of 
   12
   Token: Stephen Farrell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

2.1.2 Returning items
 NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
 o draft-leiba-rfc2119-update-02  - IETF stream
   Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC 2119 Key Words (Best
   Current Practice) - 1 of 2
   Token: Ben Campbell

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

 o draft-bchv-rfc6890bis-05  - IETF stream
   Special-Purpose IP Address Registries (Best Current Practice) - 2 of 
   2
   Token: Suresh Krishnan
   IANA Review: IANA - Not OK
   Consensus: Yes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov.*

2.2.2 Returning items
 NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
 NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
 NONE

2.3.3 For action  
 o status-change-uplifting-rfc5289-to-ps-00  - IETF stream
   Uplifting RFC5289 from informational to proposed standard (None)
   Token: Stephen Farrell

The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC 5289 from Informational to 
Proposed Standard pending the conclusion of the IETF Last Call and a 
final check to be completed by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will 
send a Protocol Action Announcement.

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items  
 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-temporal-hitless-psm-13  - IETF stream
   Requirements for hitless MPLS path segment monitoring
   (Informational) - 1 of 4
   Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

 o draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption-10  - IETF stream
   Opportunistic Security for HTTP (Experimental) - 2 of 4
   Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-bmwg-virtual-net-04  - IETF stream
   Considerations for Benchmarking Virtual Network Functions and Their
   Infrastructure (Informational) - 3 of 4
   Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

 o draft-ietf-dane-smime-15  - IETF stream
   Using Secure DNS to Associate Certificates with Domain Names For
   S/MIME (Experimental) - 4 of 4
   Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
 NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
 o draft-hardie-privsec-metadata-insertion-07  - IETF stream
   Design considerations for Metadata Insertion (Informational) - 1 of 
   2
   Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Document Action Announcement.

 o draft-mm-wg-effect-encrypt-08  - IETF stream
   Effect of Pervasive Encryption (Informational) - 2 of 2
   Token: Stephen Farrell

Kathleen Moriarty formally recused herself from the discussion. The 
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper and Mirja Kuehlewind.*

3.2.2 Returning items
 NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
 NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
 NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
 o conflict-review-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-00
   IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix
     draft-irtf-nmrg-location-ipfix-07
     Extending IP Flow-Based Network Monitoring with Location
   Information (IRTF: Informational) - 1 of 1
   Token: Joel Jaeggli

The conflict review remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Alissa Cooper and Stephen Farrell.*

3.4.2 Returning items
 NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
 NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
 NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
 NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
  6.1 ISOC BOT selection from IAB to be confirmed by IESG (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG confirmed the ISOC Board of 
Trustees candidate selected by the IAB.

  6.2 Proposed Telechat Dates Between IETF 98 and IETF 99 (Amy Vezza/
      Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the telechat dates 
between IETF 98 and IETF 99.

  6.3 Invitation to attend "Decision-making in standard developing 
      organisations for the internet" (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. 

  6.4 [IANA #953567] Designated expert for RFC 7854 (Amanda Baber/IANA)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action item: Benoit Claise and Joel Jaeggli to find a designated expert 
for RFC 7854 [IANA #953567].

  6.5 YANG security considerations guidelines (Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed. 

  6.6 Designated Experts for RFC 8053 [IANA #947409] and RFC-ietf-
      httpauth-mutual-11 [IANA #950217] (Kathleen Moriarty)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Rifaat Shekh-Yusef 
<rifaat.ietf@gmail.com> and Yutaka Oiwa <y.oiwa@aist.go.jp> as the 
Designated Experts for RFC 8053 [IANA #947409] and RFC-ietf-httpauth-
mutual-11 [IANA #950217].

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.