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Date and time 2016-12-01 15:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 1, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Robert Sparks (Oracle) / IAB Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
---------------------------------
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 


OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
Ignas Bagdonas
Warren Kumari
Alexander Pelov


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the November 3, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the November 3, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the November 3, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-l3sm-l3vpn-service-model-19  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-cose-msg-24  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-radext-datatypes-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc5405bis-19  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-weis-gdoi-iec62351-9-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netmod-routing-cfg-25  (Proposed Standard)


1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Benoit Claise, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to propose charter 
    development recommendations.
  o Suresh Krishnan to find more scribes.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Alexey Melnikov to find a backup expert for Zach Shelby for the 
    other CoRE registries [IANA #928192].

NEW:
  o Deborah Brungard to identify designated experts for RFC-ietf-mpls-
    rfc4379bis-09 [IANA #937688].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
 o draft-ietf-straw-b2bua-rtcp-15  - IETF stream
    Guidelines to support RTCP end-to-end in Back-to-Back User Agents
    (B2BUAs) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper and Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-appsawg-mdn-3798bis-15  - IETF stream
    Message Disposition Notification (Internet Standard) - 2 of 7
    Token: Ben Campbell

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion. The 
document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Ben Campbell confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-savi-mix-14  - IETF stream
    SAVI for Mixed Address Assignment Methods Scenario (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 7
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Suresh Krishnan. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-6lo-6lobac-06  - IETF stream
    Transmission of IPv6 over MS/TP Networks  (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 
    7
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-resolver-priming-09  - IETF stream
    Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries (Best Current
    Practice) - 5 of 7
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Joel Jaeggli. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-kitten-rfc6112bis-03  - IETF stream
    Anonymity Support for Kerberos (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-kitten-pkinit-freshness-07  - IETF stream
    Public Key Cryptography for Initial Authentication in Kerberos
    (PKINIT) Freshness Extension (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 7
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Kathleen Moriarty.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items   
  o draft-ietf-behave-ipfix-nat-logging-11  - IETF stream
    IPFIX Information Elements for logging NAT Events (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 4
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Alia Atlas, Benoit Claise, Stephen Farrell, 
and Suresh Krishnan.*

  o draft-levine-herkula-oneclick-09 (Has RFC Editor Note)  - IETF 
    stream
    Signalling one-click functionality for list email headers (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-holmberg-dispatch-received-realm-10  - IETF stream
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Via header field parameter to
    indicate received realm (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send an individual submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Ben Campbell confirms that the announcement is ready
to be sent.

  o draft-leiba-3967upd-downref-01  - IETF stream
    Updating when Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to
    Documents at a Lower Level  (Best Current Practice) - 4 of 4
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Ben Campbell. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items  
  o draft-ietf-taps-transports-12  - IETF stream
    Services provided by IETF transport protocols and congestion control
    mechanisms (Informational) - 1 of 5
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

Mirja Kuehlewind formally recused herself from the discussion. The 
document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed 
by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-pim-join-attributes-for-lisp-05  - IETF stream
    PIM Join Attributes for LISP Environments (Experimental) - 2 of 5
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-diffserv-intercon-12  - IETF stream
    Diffserv-Interconnection classes and practice (Informational) - 3 of 
    5
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-6lo-privacy-considerations-04  - IETF stream
    Privacy Considerations for IPv6 Adaptation Layer Mechanisms
    (Informational) - 4 of 5
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Suresh Krishnan. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-siprec-callflows-07  - IETF stream
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Recording Call Flows
    (Informational) - 5 of 5
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alissa Cooper. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items 
  o draft-bbf-bbf-urn-04  - IETF stream
    Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespaces for Broadband Forum
    (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an 
individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC 
Editor Note prepared by Benoit Claise.

  o draft-ieee-urn-03  - IETF stream
    URN Namespace for IEEE (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an 
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Concise Binary Object Representation Maintenance and Extensions 
    (cbor)
    Area: ART (Alexey Melnikov)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to 
be provided by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a WG Review 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
Teleconference (December 15, 2016).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Session Initiation Protocol Core (sipcore)
    Area: ART (Ben Campbell)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending 
edits to the milestones. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: 
RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 License File for Git Repositories (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will place this on 
the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (December 15, 2016).

   6.2 [IANA #937688] Designated expert for RFC-ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis-09 
       ((MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Deborah Brungard to identify designated experts for RFC-
ietf-mpls-rfc4379bis-09 [IANA #937688].

7. Working Group news


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.