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Date and time 2016-09-01 14:00
Title Minutes interim-2016-iesg-18 2016-09-01 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 1, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Robert Sparks (Oracle) / IAB Liaison
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
---------------------------------
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

OBSERVERS
--------------------------------- 
None

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 18, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 18, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 18, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-cdni-metadata-21  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tram-stun-path-data-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-27  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-circuit-breakers-18  (Proposed Standard)

   
1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Benoit Claise, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to propose charter 
    development recommendations.

  o Jari Arkko and the IESG to put together feedback questions regarding 
    the 10am meeting start, length of the meeting time, and potential 
    experiments with meeting formats (unconference, lounges, 1+lounge 
    time, etc.)

  o Suresh Krishnan to find more scribes.

  o Ben Campbell to find a designated expert for SDP Parameters [IANA 
    #922491].

  o Jari Arkko to produce new text to go on the IPR web page.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-multi-domain-fs-reqs-10  - IETF stream
    Multiple NFSv4 Domain Namespace Deployment Requirements (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 7
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Spencer Dawkins confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-scsi-layout-08  - IETF stream
    Parallel NFS (pNFS) SCSI Layout (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 7
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Spencer Dawkins confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-lsp-ping-04  - IETF stream
    Label Switched Path (LSP) and Pseudowire (PW) Ping/Trace over MPLS
    Network using Entropy Labels (EL) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-rfc5764-mux-fixes-10  - IETF stream
    Multiplexing Scheme Updates for Secure Real-time Transport Protocol
    (SRTP) Extension for Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) - 4 of 
     7
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Ben Campbell. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-avtext-rid-08  - IETF stream
    RTP Stream Identifier Source Description (SDES) (Proposed Standard) 
    - 5 of 7
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Ben Campbell confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tram-turn-mobility-07  - IETF stream
    Mobility with TURN (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-tram-turn-server-discovery-09  - IETF stream
    TURN Server Auto Discovery (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 7
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell, Suresh Krishnan, Terry Manderson, Alexey 
Melnikov, and Kathleen Moriarty.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items  
  o draft-ietf-6man-deprecate-atomfrag-generation-07  - IETF stream
    Generation of IPv6 Atomic Fragments Considered Harmful
    (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Suresh Krishnan. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ice-dualstack-fairness-04  - IETF stream
    ICE Multihomed and IPv4/IPv6 Dual Stack Fairness (Informational) - 2 
    of 4
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell, Alissa Cooper, Suresh Krishnan, Mirja 
Kuehlewind, and Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-6man-ipv6-mibs-obsolete-01  - IETF stream
    Republishing the IPV6-specific MIB modules as obsolete
    (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Suresh Krishnan confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-httpauth-extension-08  - IETF stream
    HTTP Authentication Extensions for Interactive Clients
    (Experimental) - 4 of 4
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Kathleen Moriarty confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  o draft-seantek-ldap-pkcs9-06  - IETF stream
    Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) Registrations for PKCS
    #9 (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-hardy-pdf-mime-03  - IETF stream
    The application/pdf Media Type (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-thomas-namecollisions-workshop-report-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-thomas-namecollisions-workshop-report
      draft-thomas-namecollisions-workshop-report-05
      Report from the Workshop and Prize on Root Causes and Mitigation
    of Name Collisions (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o QUIC (quic) - 1 of 1
    Area: TSV (Spencer Dawkins)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Benoit Claise.*  

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o IP Security Maintenance and Extensions (ipsecme) - 1 of 1
    Area: SEC (Kathleen Moriarty)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will 
place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (September 
15, 2016).

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Community questions on meeting start times, unstructured time, 
        etc. (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.2 Executive Session: Additional Feedback for NomCom (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed in an an executive session.

   6.3 Executive Session: Status update on IANA transition (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed in an an executive session.

7. Working Group news



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.