Minutes interim-2014-iesg-18 2014-10-16 15:30
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 16, 2014 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Mary Barnes / IAB Liaison
Richard Barnes (Mozilla) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure 
  Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Huawei) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area 
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IAB Chair
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area
Ted Lemon (Nominum) / Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area 
Martin Stiemerling (Darmstadt University of Applied Sciences) / 
  Transport Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
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Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Nagendra Kumar / Scribe
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

OBSERVERS
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Brian Campbell
Mike Jones
Hannes Tschofenig

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 2, 2014 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 18, 2014 and the October 2, 2014 
Teleconferences were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in 
the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 2, 2014 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-websec-key-pinning-21  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-straw-sip-traceroute-03  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ttl-tlv-10  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-bfd-intervals-05  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-smp-requirements-09  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-10  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path-07  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-pce-questions-08  (Informational)
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Joel Jaeggli to write up IESG thoughts on further development of 
    scribing and tools.

  o Pete Resnick to draft text to send to the community regarding the 
    Area re-organization proposal.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Barry Leiba to find additional media types IANA experts.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-oauth-saml2-bearer-21  - IETF stream
    SAML 2.0 Profile for OAuth 2.0 Client Authentication and
    Authorization Grants (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 10
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Richard Barnes.*

  o draft-ietf-oauth-jwt-bearer-10  - IETF stream
    JSON Web Token (JWT) Profile for OAuth 2.0 Client Authentication and
    Authorization Grants (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 10
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Richard Barnes.*

  o draft-ietf-softwire-map-11  - IETF stream
    Mapping of Address and Port with Encapsulation (MAP) (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 10
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

  o draft-ietf-softwire-lw4over6-11  - IETF stream
    Lightweight 4over6: An Extension to the DS-Lite Architecture
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 10
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

  o draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-10  - IETF stream
    BGP MPLS Based Ethernet VPN (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 10
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-soc-overload-rate-control-10  - IETF stream
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Rate Control (Proposed Standard) - 
    6 of 10
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-geopriv-uncertainty-03  - IETF stream
    Representation of Uncertainty and Confidence in PIDF-LO (Proposed
    Standard) - 7 of 10
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Barry Leiba and Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-opsec-bgp-security-05  - IETF stream
    BGP operations and security (Best Current Practice) - 8 of 10
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-appsawg-authres-ptypes-registry-04  - IETF stream
    A Property Types Registry for the Authentication-Results Header
    Field (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 10
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-softwire-map-dhcp-09  - IETF stream
    DHCPv6 Options for configuration of Softwire Address and Port Mapped
    Clients (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 10
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

2.1.2 Returning Items    
  o draft-ietf-oauth-assertions-17  - IETF stream
    Assertion Framework for OAuth 2.0 Client Authentication and
    Authorization Grants (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Richard Barnes and Stephen Farrell.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.3 Status Changes
2.3.1 New Items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-large-flow-load-balancing-15  - IETF stream
    Mechanisms for Optimizing LAG/ECMP Component Link Utilization in
    Networks (Informational) - 1 of 7
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-multimob-fmipv6-pfmipv6-multicast-09  - IETF stream
    Multicast Listener Extensions for MIPv6 and PMIPv6 Fast Handovers
    (Experimental) - 2 of 7
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Brian Haberman. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-softwire-map-t-06  - IETF stream
    Mapping of Address and Port using Translation (MAP-T) (Experimental) 
    - 3 of 7
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

  o draft-ietf-softwire-4rd-09  - IETF stream
    IPv4 Residual Deployment via IPv6 - a Stateless Solution (4rd)
    (Experimental) - 4 of 7
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

  o draft-ietf-grow-ix-bgp-route-server-operations-03  - IETF stream
    Internet Exchange Route Server Operations (Informational) - 5 of 7
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-roaming-analysis-06  - IETF stream
    IPv6 Roaming Behavior Analysis (Informational) - 6 of 7
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Joel Jaeggli. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-uta-tls-attacks-04  - IETF stream
    Summarizing Current Attacks on TLS and DTLS (Informational) - 7 of 7
    Token: Pete Resnick

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Kathleen Moriarty.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 Status Changes
3.3.1 New Items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.4.1 New Items
  o conflict-review-dawkins-irtf-newrg-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-dawkins-irtf-newrg
      draft-dawkins-irtf-newrg-05
      An IRTF Primer for IETF Participants (IRTF: Informational) - 1 of 
      1
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

Spencer Dawkins formally recused himself from the discussion.  The IESG 
has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The Secretariat 
will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a 
conflict review response prepared by Martin Stiemerling.

3.4.2 Returning Items
  o conflict-review-thornburgh-rtmfp-flash-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-thornburgh-rtmfp-flash
      draft-thornburgh-rtmfp-flash-07
      Adobe's RTMFP Profile for Flash Communication (ISE: Informational) 
      - 1 of 2
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Martin Stiemerling.

  o conflict-review-irtf-sdnrg-layer-terminology-01
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-sdnrg-layer-terminology
      draft-irtf-sdnrg-layer-terminology-03
      SDN Layers and Architecture Terminology (IRTF: Informational) - 2 
      of 2
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Adrian Farrel.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Delay Tolerant Networking (dtn) - 1 of 2
    Area: TSV (Martin Stiemerling)

The charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Pete Resnick.*

  o Pseudowire And LDP-enabled Services (pals) - 2 of 2
    Area: RTG (Adrian Farrel)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (October 30, 2014).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o BGP Enabled Services (bess) - 1 of 3
    Area: RTG (Adrian Farrel)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

  o Layer Independent OAM Management in the Multi-Layer Environment 
    (lime) - 2 of 3
    Area: OPS (Benoit Claise)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

  o DNS PRIVate Exchange (dprive) - 3 of 3
    Area: INT (Brian Haberman)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Distributed Mobility Management (dmm) - 1 of 2
    Area: INT (Brian Haberman)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

  o Network Virtualization Overlays (nvo3) - 2 of 2
    Area: RTG (Alia Atlas)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 APP area and restructuring (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG has decided to recommend 
NomCom not fill the Applications Area Director position.  If the 
position remains unfilled, it will facilitate the planned internal 
reorganization of the IESG.

7. Working Group News



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.