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Date and time 2014-02-20 16:30
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 20, 2014 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / incoming Routing Area
Richard Barnes (Mozilla) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure 
  Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area 
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure 
  Area 
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / incoming Real-time Applications and 
  Infrastructure Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Huawei) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area 
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area 
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IAB Chair
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area 
Ted Lemon (Nominum) / Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / incoming Security Area
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area 
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
--------------------------------- 
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor 
Nagendra Kumar / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

MINUTES 
--------------------------------- 
1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 6, 2014 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the February 6, 2014 Teleconferences were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 6, 2014 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p7-auth-26  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p6-cache-26  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p5-range-26  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p4-conditional-26  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-26  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging-26  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc2326bis-40  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-stox-presence-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tls-oob-pubkey-11  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-bundesbank-eurosystem-namespace-03  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-clue-telepresence-use-cases-09  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-l2vpn-evpn-req-07  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-lisp-deployment-12  (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-method-registrations-15  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-authscheme-registrations-10  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-reqts-11  (Informational)
  o draft-crocker-id-adoption-09  (Informational)
  o draft-turner-application-cms-media-type-08  (Informational)
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Ted Lemon to write up a document describing how the IESG should 
    figure out whether to do early allocations for special-use TLDs, and 
    present it to the IESG for discussion.

  o Pete Resnick and Adrian Farrel to draft for a detailed anti-
    harassment policy.

  o Richard Barnes to draft a new Note Well proposal and circulate for 
    review.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Ted Lemon to write a note to ICANN indicating that the IESG is 
    considering allocating Special-use Top-Level Domain Names for Peer-
    to-Peer Applications and requesting feedback.

  o Barry Leiba to draft an update to the IESG Statement on Designating 
    RFCs as Historic.

  o Jari Arkko to propose changes to the DISCUSS criteria to handle 
    pervasive monitoring.

NEW:
  o Barry Leiba to provide an update for the IETF website to explain the 
    new alternative document shepherd write-up template.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-pcp-nat64-prefix64-05  - IETF stream
    Learning NAT64 PREFIX64s using Port Control Protocol (PCP) (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 13
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Ted Lemon confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-g723-g729-05  - IETF stream
    Offer/Answer Considerations for G723 Annex A and G729 Annex B
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 13
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Gonzalo Camarillo confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-pcp-description-option-04  - IETF stream
    PCP Description Option (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 13
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-duplication-05  - IETF stream
    Duplicating RTP Streams (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 13
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Gonzalo Camarillo confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-13  - IETF stream
    Inter-Chassis Communication Protocol for L2VPN PE Redundancy
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 13
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-dane-registry-acronyms-04  - IETF stream
    Adding acronyms to simplify DANE conversations (Proposed Standard) - 
    6 of 13
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an 
RFC Editor Note prepared by Stephen Farrell.    

  o draft-ietf-qresync-rfc5162bis-10  - IETF stream
    IMAP Extensions for Conditional STORE Operation or Quick Flag
    Changes Resynchronization (CONDSTORE) and Quick Mailbox
    Resynchronization (QRESYNC) (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 13
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-tlv-extension-02  - IETF stream
    Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) and MANET
    Neighborhood Discovery Protocol (NHDP) Extension TLVs (Proposed
    Standard) - 8 of 13
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Adrian Farrel on behalf of IANA, Brian
Haberman, and Barry Leiba.*

  o draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-rmpr-optimization-00  - IETF stream
    Routing MPR Optimization for the Optimized Link State Routing
    Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2) (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 13
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Barry Leiba.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-mldp-vrf-in-band-signaling-03  - IETF stream
    Multipoint Label Distribution Protocol In-Band Signaling in a VRF
    Context (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 13
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Stewart Bryant. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mib-14  - IETF stream
    Virtual Private Lan Services (VPLS) Management Information Base
    (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 13
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Stewart Bryant. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-bytes-discarded-metric-01  - IETF stream
    RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Extended Report (XR) for Bytes Discarded
    Metric (Proposed Standard) - 12 of 13
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Gonzalo Camarillo. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-08  - IETF stream
    RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Blocks for
    Synchronization Delay and Offset Metrics Reporting (Proposed
    Standard) - 13 of 13
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

2.1.2 Returning Items 
  o draft-ietf-alto-protocol-26  - IETF stream
    ALTO Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-cs-23  - IETF stream
    Session Description Protocol (SDP) Extension For Setting Audio and
    Video Media Streams Over Circuit-Switched Bearers In The Public
    Switched Telephone Network (PSTN) (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.3 Status Changes
2.3.1 New Items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-opsec-vpn-leakages-03  - IETF stream
    Virtual Private Network (VPN) traffic leakages in dual-stack hosts/
    networks (Informational) - 1 of 5
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-abfab-arch-12  - IETF stream
    Application Bridging for Federated Access Beyond Web (ABFAB)
    Architecture (Informational) - 2 of 5
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (March 20, 2014) 
by Benoit Claise.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-experience-09  - IETF stream
    NAT64 Operational Experience (Informational) - 3 of 5
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-forwarding-08  - IETF stream
    MPLS Forwarding Compliance and Performance Requirements
    (Informational) - 4 of 5
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-stir-problem-statement-03  - IETF stream
    Secure Telephone Identity Problem Statement (Informational) - 5 of 5
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Richard Barnes. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items   
  o draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-12  - IETF stream
    Using the International Mobile station Equipment Identity (IMEI)
    Uniform Resource Name (URN) as an Instance ID (Informational) - 1 of 
    2
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo
    
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-housley-pkix-test-oids-00  - IETF stream
    Object Identifiers for Test Certificate Policies (Informational) - 2 
    of 2
    Token: Sean Turner
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Sean Turner. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Items    
  o draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-19  - IETF stream
    A Uniform Resource Name Namespace for the Global System for Mobile
    communications Association (GSMA) and the International Mobile
    station Equipment Identity (IMEI) (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell and Barry Leiba.*

3.3 Status Changes
3.3.1 New Items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.4.1 New Items
  o conflict-review-saintandre-jabberid-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-saintandre-jabberid
      draft-saintandre-jabberid-12
      The Jabber-ID Header Field (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Pete Resnick

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Pete Resnick.

  o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-ocb-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-ocb
      draft-irtf-cfrg-ocb-07
      The OCB Authenticated-Encryption Algorithm (IRTF: Informational) - 
    2 of 2
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG 
that includes a conflict review response prepared by Stephen Farrell.

3.4.2 Returning Items
  o conflict-review-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer
      draft-irtf-dtnrg-tcp-clayer-08
      Delay Tolerant Networking TCP Convergence Layer Protocol (IRTF:
    Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

Stephen Farrell formally recused himself from the discussion.  The IESG 
has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The Secretariat 
will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that includes a 
conflict review response prepared by Martin Stiemerling.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o TURN Revised and Modernized (tram) - 1 of 1
    Area: TSV (Spencer Dawkins)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Network Configuration (netconf) - 1 of 1
    Area: OPS (Benoit Claise)


The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Results of Alternate Drafts Write-Up Experiment (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the use of the 
alternate document shepherd write-up template, in addition to the 
traditional document shepherd write-up template.

Action item: Barry Leiba to provide an update for the IETF website to 
explain the new alternative document shepherd write-up template.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.