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Date and time 2013-12-19 16:30
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 19, 2013 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Richard Barnes (BBN) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area 
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Spencer Dawkins (Huawei) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area 
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area 
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IAB Chair
Joel Jaeggli (Zynga) / Operations and Management Area
Nagendra Kumar / Scribe
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area 
Ted Lemon (Nominum) / Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Lionel Morand / Document shepherd for draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bis
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area 
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
--------------------------------- 
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure 
 Area 
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area

MINUTES 
--------------------------------- 
1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the December 5, 2013 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the December 5, 2013 Teleconferences were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the December 5, 2013 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-kolkman-proposed-standards-clarified-06  (Best Current 
    Practice)
  o draft-ietf-opsec-ip-options-filtering-07  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-ipfix-mediation-protocol-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-forces-ceha-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ospf-g709v3-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte-pkt-congest-12  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping-15  (Proposed 
    Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-opsec-ipv6-implications-on-ipv4-nets-07  (Informational)
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Jari Arkko to follow up with Patrick Masotta regarding the appeal 
    over draft-masotta-tftpexts-windowsize-opt.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Ted Lemon to write a note to ICANN indicating that the IESG is 
    considering allocating Special-use Top-Level Domain Names for Peer-
    to-Peer Applications and requesting feedback.

  o Ted Lemon to write up a document describing how the IESG should 
    figure out whether to do early allocations for special-use TLDs, and 
    present it to the IESG for discussion.

  o Pete Resnick and Adrian Farrel to draft for a detailed anti-
    harassment policy.

  o Barry Leiba to draft an update to the IESG Statement on Designating 
    RFCs as Historic.

NEW:
  o Pete Resnick to draft liaison statement to ISO JTC1/SC29 regarding 
    media type registration of iso.segment. Ref: [IANA #674787].

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging-25  - IETF stream
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP/1.1): Message Syntax and Routing
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 16
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Ted Lemon, and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p2-semantics-25  - IETF stream
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP/1.1): Semantics and Content
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 16
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p4-conditional-25  - IETF stream
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP/1.1): Conditional Requests
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 16
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p5-range-25  - IETF stream
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP/1.1): Range Requests (Proposed
    Standard) - 4 of 16
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p6-cache-25  - IETF stream
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP/1.1): Caching (Proposed Standard) 
    - 5 of 16
    Token: Barry Leiba
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-p7-auth-25  - IETF stream
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP/1.1): Authentication (Proposed
    Standard) - 6 of 16
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-dime-rfc4005bis-14  - IETF stream
    Diameter Network Access Server Application (Proposed Standard) - 7 
    of 16
    Token: Benoit Claise
    
The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an 
RFC Editor Note prepared by Benoit Claise.

  o draft-ietf-pim-explicit-tracking-09  - IETF stream
    IGMP/MLD-Based Explicit Membership Tracking Function for Multicast
    Routers (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 16
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG.  The Secretariat will 
place the document on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference 
(January 9, 2014).

  o draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-hsmp-05  - IETF stream
    LDP Extensions for Hub & Spoke Multipoint Label Switched Path
    (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 16
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-json-rfc4627bis-09  - IETF stream
    The JSON Data Interchange Format (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 16
    Token: Pete Resnick

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-vendor-constraints-11  - IETF stream
    Conveying Vendor-Specific Constraints in the Path Computation
    Element communication Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 16
    Token: Stewart Bryant

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Stewart Bryant. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-6man-ug-06  - IETF stream
    Significance of IPv6 Interface Identifiers (Proposed Standard) - 12 
    of 16
    Token: Brian Haberman
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Brian Haberman. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-payload-rtp-aptx-04  - IETF stream
    RTP Payload Format for Standard apt-X and Enhanced apt-X Codecs
    (Proposed Standard) - 13 of 16
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-ecrit-country-emg-urn-02  - IETF stream
    URN For Country Specific Emergency Services (Proposed Standard) - 14 
    of 16
    Token: Richard Barnes
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Richard Barnes. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-rosen-rph-reg-policy-01  - IETF stream
    Resource Priority Header (RPH) Registry Management Policy to IETF
    Review (Proposed Standard) - 15 of 16
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis-07  - IETF stream
    Ethernet in the First Mile Copper (EFMCu) Interfaces MIB (Proposed
    Standard) - 16 of 16
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an 
RFC Editor Note prepared by Benoit Claise.

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-moonesamy-ietf-conduct-3184bis-05  - IETF stream
    IETF Guidelines for Conduct (Best Current Practice) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (January 9, 2014) 
by Pete Resnick.

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.3 Status Changes
2.3.1 New Items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-avt-srtp-not-mandatory-14  - IETF stream
    Securing the RTP Protocol Framework: Why RTP Does Not Mandate a
    Single Media Security Solution (Informational) - 1 of 6
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise.*

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-authscheme-registrations-09  - IETF stream
    Initial Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Authentication Scheme
    Registrations (Informational) - 2 of 6
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-method-registrations-14  - IETF stream
    Initial Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Method Registrations
    (Informational) - 3 of 6
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-10  - IETF stream
    How to Write an RTP Payload Format (Informational) - 4 of 6
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Spencer Dawkins and Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-jose-use-cases-05  - IETF stream
    Use Cases and Requirements for JSON Object Signing and Encryption
    (JOSE) (Informational) - 5 of 6
    Token: Sean Turner

Richard Barnes formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-security-options-09  - IETF stream
    Options for Securing RTP Sessions (Informational) - 6 of 6
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Richard Barnes. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-trammell-ipfix-tcpcontrolbits-revision-05  - IETF stream
    Revision of the tcpControlBits IPFIX Information Element
    (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an 
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-bundesbank-eurosystem-namespace-02  - IETF stream
    A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for Eurosystem Messaging
    (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 Status Changes
3.3.1 New Items
  o status-change-std1-to-historic-01  - IETF stream
    STD1 (RFC5000) To Historic - 1 of 1
    Token: Pete Resnick

The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC 5000 from Informational to 
Historic.  The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement.

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.4.1 New Items
  o conflict-review-lanthaler-profile-registry-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-lanthaler-profile-registry
      draft-lanthaler-profile-registry-04
      The Profile URI Registry (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Barry Leiba

The conflict review remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Stewart Bryant, Barry Leiba, and Pete Resnick.*

3.4.2 Returning Items
  o conflict-review-wkumari-dnsop-defense-collision-mitigate-00
    IETF conflict review for
    draft-wkumari-dnsop-defense-collision-mitigate
      draft-wkumari-dnsop-defense-collision-mitigate-03
      A method for mitigating namespace collisions (ISE: Informational) 
      - 1 of 1
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Joel Jaeggli.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Service Function Chaining (sfc) - 1 of 1
    Area: RTG (Adrian Farrel)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Multiple Interfaces (mif) - 1 of 1
    Area: INT (Ted Lemon)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Update on candidates for IAOC seat (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.2 Nomcom and IESG process for selecting IAOC members (Spencer 
       Dawkins)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.