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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 11, 2012 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
---------------------------------
Richard Barnes / Scribe
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Wesley Eddy (MTI Systems) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
---------------------------------
Bernard Aboba (Microsoft) / IAB Chair
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 27, 2012 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes for the September 27, 2012 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the September 27, 2012 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-pdv-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-policy-uri-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-idr-rfc4893bis-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-websec-strict-transport-sec-14  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-yegin-pana-encr-avp-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-channel-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-trill-rbridge-bfd-07  (Proposed Standard)


1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-pim-pop-count-07  (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-22  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-fwk-05  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-conex-concepts-uses-05  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  NONE

NEW:
  o Stephen Farrell to find a designated expert for RFC3230 (HTTP Digest
    Algorithm Values) [IANA #615445].

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-storm-iscsi-cons-07
    iSCSI Protocol (Consolidated) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 10
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Brian Haberman and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-fecframe-ldpc-04
    Simple LDPC-Staircase Forward Error Correction (FEC) Scheme for
    FECFRAME (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 10
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Martin Stiemerling. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-16
    The Optimized Link State Routing Protocol version 2 (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 10
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Barry Leiba and Martin Stiemerling.*

  o draft-ietf-6man-dad-proxy-05
    Duplicate Address Detection Proxy (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 10
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Stephen Farrell, Barry Leiba and Sean
Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-ivi-icmp-address-06
    Stateless Source Address Mapping for ICMPv6 Packets (Proposed
    Standard) - 5 of 10
    Token: Ronald Bonica

The document's intended status was changed from Best Current Practice to
Proposed Standard. The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC
Editor Note to be prepared by Ron Bonica. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
RFC Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-dnsext-rfc6195bis-04
    Domain Name System (DNS) IANA Considerations (Best Current Practice)
    - 6 of 10
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Barry Leiba on behalf of IANA.*

  o draft-ietf-sipcore-proxy-feature-11
    Mechanism to indicate support of features and capabilities in the
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 10
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-sidr-pfx-validate-10
    BGP Prefix Origin Validation (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 10
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-naming-06
    Name Attributes for the GSS-API EAP mechanism (Proposed Standard) -
    9 of 10
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-6man-udpchecksums-04
    UDP Checksums for Tunneled Packets (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 10
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica, Stewart Bryant and Barry Leiba.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-fecframe-pseudo-cdp-04
    Pseudo Content Delivery Protocol (CDP) for Protecting Multiple
    Source Flows in FEC Framework (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Martin Stiemerling. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-6man-udpzero-06
    IPv6 UDP Checksum Considerations (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica, Stewart Bryant and Barry Leiba.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-avtext-splicing-for-rtp-10
    Content Splicing for RTP Sessions (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant and Pete Resnick.*

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  o conflict-review-pornin-deterministic-dsa-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-pornin-deterministic-dsa - 1 of 2
    Token: Sean Turner

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing draft-pornin-
deterministic-dsa. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem"
message to the RFC Independent Submissions Editor that includes an RFC
Note to be prepared by Sean Turner.

  o conflict-review-mme-trill-fcoe-01
    IETF conflict review for draft-mme-trill-fcoe - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The conflict review document remains under discussion by the IESG in
order to resolve points raised by Stewart Bryant.*

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  o Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (bfd) - 1 of 1
    Token: Adrian Farrell

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will
place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (October 25,
2012).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Operations and Management Area Working Group (opsawg) - 1 of 1
    Tokens: Ron Bonica and Benoit Claise

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Approval of the IESG Statement regarding Ethertype assignments
       (Russ Housley)

The management issue was deferred to the next IESG teleconference
(October 25, 2012).

   6.2 Early code point allocation by IESG review for BFD over LAG
       (Adrian Farrel)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the early code
point allocations.

   6.3 Designated Expert for RTP RTCP Control Packet Types (PT) [IANA
       #615825] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Steve Casner
(casner@acm.org) and Magnus Westerlund (magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com)
as the designated experts for RTP RTCP Control Packet Types (PT).

   6.4 Joint CCAMP / ITU-T SG15 Q6 meeting in Orlando (Adrian Farrel)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.5 Appoint a designated expert for the Structured Syntax Suffix
       registry (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Ned Freed
(ned.freed@mrochek.com) as the designated expert for the the Structured
Syntax Suffix registry.

   6.6 Moving RFC 4743 to HISTORIC status (Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved moving RFC 4743
to Historic.  The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement.

Below is a record of the positions recorded on this question:

                        Yes  No-Objection  Discuss  Abstain  Recuse
Ronald Bonica          [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Stewart Bryant         [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Gonzalo Camarillo      [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Benoit Claise          [ X ]    [   ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Ralph Droms            [   ]    [   ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Wesley Eddy            [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Adrian Farrel          [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Stephen Farrell        [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Brian Haberman         [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Russ Housley           [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Barry Leiba            [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Pete Resnick           [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Robert Sparks          [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Martin Stiemerling     [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Sean Turner            [   ]    [   ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]

   6.7 Moving RFC 4744 to HISTORIC status (Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved moving RFC 4744
to Historic.  The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement.

Below is a record of the positions recorded on this question:

                        Yes  No-Objection  Discuss  Abstain  Recuse
Ronald Bonica          [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Stewart Bryant         [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Gonzalo Camarillo      [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Benoit Claise          [ X ]    [   ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Ralph Droms            [   ]    [   ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Wesley Eddy            [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Adrian Farrel          [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Stephen Farrell        [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Brian Haberman         [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Russ Housley           [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Barry Leiba            [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Pete Resnick           [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Robert Sparks          [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Martin Stiemerling     [   ]    [ X ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]
Sean Turner            [   ]    [   ]       [   ]    [   ]    [   ]

   6.8 Does the IESG wish to provide comments to ICANN on Global Policy
       for Post Exhaustion IPv4 Allocation Mechanisms (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG decided not to send
comments as a group, but IESG members are free to send comments as
individuals.

   6.9 Reclassify HTTP status code 425 as "Unassigned" (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG will send a Last Call on
reclassifying HTTP status code 425 as "Unassigned."

   6.10 Designated Expert for RFC3230 (HTTP Digest Algorithm Values)
       [IANA #615445] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Stephen Farrell to find a designated expert for RFC3230
(HTTP Digest Algorithm Values) [IANA #615445].

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.