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Date and time 2012-09-13 15:30
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minutes-interim-2012-iesg-17-201209131530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 13, 2012 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Richard Barnes / Scribe
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Wesley Eddy (MTI Systems) / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Bernard Aboba (Microsoft) / IAB Chair
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 30, 2012 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes for the August 30, 2012 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 30, 2012 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-mib-19  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6man-lineid-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-speechsc-mrcpv2-28  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-meas-identity-10  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-policy-27  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-v6ops-wireline-incremental-ipv6-06  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-cdni-use-cases-10  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Ron Bonica to write a draft moving RFC 5156 to Historic.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-sieve-imap-sieve-08
    Support for Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) Events in Sieve
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7
    Token: Pete Resnick

Barry Leiba formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Stephen Farrell and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-simple-chat-16
    Multi-party Chat Using the Message Session Relay Protocol (MSRP)
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 7
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Stephen Farrell, Martin Stiemerling and
Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-assoc-ext-05
    RSVP Association Object Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms.*

  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-pdv-05
    RTCP XR Report Block for Packet Delay Variation Metric Reporting
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Adrian Farrel and Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-as0-06
    Codification of AS 0 processing. (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 7
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Stewart Bryant.

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-23
    An Extension to the Session Description Protocol (SDP) and Real-time
    Transport Protocol (RTP) for Media Loopback (Proposed Standard) - 6
    of 7
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Pete Resnick and Martin Stiemerling.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-entropy-label-06
    The Use of Entropy Labels in MPLS Forwarding (Proposed Standard) - 7
    of 7
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-eai-mailinglistbis-05
    Mailing Lists and non-ASCII Addresses (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Pete Resnick

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Pete Resnick.

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-monarch-19
    Guidelines for Use of the RTP Monitoring Framework (Informational) -
    2 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-hierarchy-fwk-05
    The Application of the Path Computation Element Architecture to the
    Determination of a Sequence of Domains in MPLS and GMPLS
    (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Stewart Bryant

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Stewart Bryant. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-abfab-usecases-04
    Application Bridging for Federated Access Beyond web (ABFAB) Use
    Cases (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

3.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-bmwg-2544-as-06
    RFC 2544 Applicability Statement: Use on Production Networks
    Considered Harmful (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Ronald Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant.*

  o draft-ietf-mptcp-multiaddressed-09
    TCP Extensions for Multipath Operation with Multiple Addresses
    (Experimental) - 2 of 2
    Token: Wesley Eddy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Barry Leiba, Robert Sparks and Sean
Turner.*

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  o conflict-review-manning-opcode-discover-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-manning-opcode-discover - 1 of 1
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing draft-manning-
opcode-discover. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem"
message to the RFC Independent Submissions Editor that includes an IESG
Note prepared by Ralph Droms.

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques (rmcat) - 1 of 1
  Token: Wesley Eddy

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
addition of chairs and mailing list information.  The Secretariat will
send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  o Hypertext Transfer Protocol Bis (httpbis) - 1 of 2
  Token: Barry Leiba

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter
pending edits to the text of the charter to be supplied by Barry Leiba.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the
WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (September 27, 2012).

  o Network Configuration (netconf) - 2 of 2
  Token: Benoit Claise

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be supplied by Benoit Claise.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Designated Expert for the AVP Codes registry in Pana Parameters
   (Ralph Droms)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Alper Yegin
(alper.yegin@yegin.org) as the Designated Expert for the AVP Codes
registry in Pana Parameters.

   6.2 Approval of the IESG Statement regarding Ethertype assignments
   (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  The management item will be
discussed further at the next IESG teleconference (September 27, 2012)

   6.3 Expert for "IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX) Entities
   Classification Engine IDs" (Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Nevil Brownlee
(n.brownlee@auckland.ac.nz) as the primary expert and Juergen Quittek
(quittek@neclab.eu) as the secondary expert for "IP Flow Information
Export (IPFIX) Entities Classification Engine IDs."

   6.4 Executive Session: Meeting Room Request (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.