Minutes interim-2012-iesg-16 2012-08-30 15:30
minutes-interim-2012-iesg-16-201208301530-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 30, 2012 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Wesley Eddy (MTI Systems) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Bernard Aboba (Microsoft) / IAB Chair
Richard Barnes / Scribe
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 16, 2012 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes for the August 16, 2012 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 16, 2012 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6lowpan-nd-21  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dccp-udpencap-11  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-grow-diverse-bgp-path-dist-08  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-grow-simple-va-12  (Informational)
  o draft-claise-export-application-info-in-ipfix-10  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Brian Haberman to propose plan to move RFC 5156 to Historic.

IN PROGRESS:
  NONE

NEW:
  o Ron Bonica to write a draft moving RFC 5156 to Historic.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-krb-wg-kdc-model-14
    An information model for Kerberos version 5 (Proposed Standard) - 1
    of 4
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-appsawg-http-forwarded-07
    Forwarded HTTP Extension (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 4
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant, Adrian Farrel, Stephen Farrell and Sean
Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-nea-pt-tls-07
    PT-TLS: A TCP-based Posture Transport (PT) Protocol (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 4
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Barry Leiba and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-dpm-07
    Label Switched Path (LSP) Data Path Delay Metrics in Generalized
    MPLS/ MPLS-TE Networks (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 4
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

2.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-ospf-prefix-hiding-05
    Hiding Transit-only Networks in OSPF (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-vegoda-cotton-rfc5735bis-03
    Special Use IPv4 Addresses (Best Current Practice) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Brian Haberman, Barry Leiba and Pete Resnick.*

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2679-02
    Test Plan and Results for Advancing RFC 2679 on the Standards Track
    (Informational) - 1 of 7
    Token: Wesley Eddy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-2544-as-05
    RFC 2544 Applicability Statement: Use on Production Networks
    Considered Harmful (Informational) - 2 of 7
    Token: Ronald Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant.*

  o draft-ietf-oauth-v2-threatmodel-07
    OAuth 2.0 Threat Model and Security Considerations (Informational) -
    3 of 7
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-mptcp-multiaddressed-09
    TCP Extensions for Multipath Operation with Multiple Addresses
    (Experimental) - 4 of 7
    Token: Wesley Eddy

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (September 13,
2012) by Sean Turner.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-wireline-incremental-ipv6-05
    Wireline Incremental IPv6 (Informational) - 5 of 7
    Token: Ronald Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc4641bis-12
    DNSSEC Operational Practices, Version 2 (Informational) - 6 of 7
    Token: Ronald Bonica

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Ron Bonica. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-armd-problem-statement-03
    Problem Statement for ARMD (Informational) - 7 of 7
    Token: Ronald Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-sparks-genarea-mailarch-06
    IETF Email List Archiving, Web-based Browsing and Search Tool
    Requirements (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

Robert Sparks formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-eggert-successful-bar-bof-08
    Considerations for Having a Successful "Bar BOF" Side Meeting
    (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

Gonzalo Camarillo formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
  o conflict-review-cisco-sla-protocol-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-cisco-sla-protocol (None) - 1 of 1
    Token: Wesley Eddy

Stewart Bryant formally recused himself from the discussion.  The IESG
has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing draft-cisco-sla-protocol.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor pending an IESG Note to be prepared by Wesley Eddy.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o RTP Media Congestion Avoidance Techniques (rmcat) - 1 of 1
    Token: Wesley Eddy

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (September 13, 2012).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Acceptance of media-type registration from standards
       Organization: ZigBee Alliance [IANA #596117] (Barry Leiba/
       Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG asks IANA to process this
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.'

   6.2 Acceptance of media-type registration from standards
       Organization: W3C [IANA #598348] (Barry Leiba/Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG asks IANA to process this
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.'

   6.3 E-vote: Support IETF Chair Signing the Modern Global Standards
       Paradigm Affirmation (Russ Housley)

This management item records in the minutes the results of an IESG
e-vote.

The Last Call on this topic has finished. There are no strong
objections to the IETF Chair and the IAB Chair signing the
Affirmation. In fact, many people spoke in support of the action.

  Question: Do you support the IETF Chair signing the Modern Global
  Standards Paradigm Affirmation?
  (YES, NO OBJECTION, ABSTAIN, DISCUSS, RECUSE)

  Ronald Bonica 	[ YES ]
  Stewart Bryant 	[ YES ]
  Gonzalo Camarillo 	[ ]
  Benoit Claise 	[ ]
  Ralph Droms 		[ NO OBJECTION ]  (was DISCUSS)
  Wesley Eddy 		[ NO OBJECTION ]
  Adrian Farrel 	[ YES ]
  Stephen Farrell 	[ YES ]
  Brian Haberman 	[ YES ]
  Russ Housley 		[ YES ]
  Barry Leiba 		[ YES ]  (was DISCUSS)
  Pete Resnick 		[ NO OBJECTION ]  (was DISCUSS)
  Robert Sparks   	[ YES ]
  Martin Stiemerling	[ ]
  Sean Turner 		[ YES ]

   6.4 Response to TUE protocol # assignment request (Sean Turner)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the following
response:

  The IESG has reviewed the TUE (TePA Universal Encapsulating) protocol
  number assignment request for a protocol number in the Internet
  Protocol (IP) Protocols Number registry.  We understand that the
  request is motivated by the efforts to publish TUE in ISO/IEC JTC1/
  SC6/WG7.  The IESG is unwilling to assign a protocol number until
  there is an approved document.  An experimental value can be used
  until the document is approved.  However, without careful analysis the
  protocol, for example, appears to provide the same services as IPsec,
  and if that is the case, it would not be eligible for a protocol
  number.

   6.5 Designated Ports Expert (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Lars Eggert
(lars@netapp.com) as a designated expert for Ports.

7. Working Group News

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for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.