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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 2, 2010 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Transport Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Barry Leiba / Scribe
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Hannes Tschofenig (Nokia Siemens Networks) / IAB Liaison
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Linda Dunbar / Scribe
Susan Hares / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Glenn Kowack / RFC Series Editor
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the November 18, 2010 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the November 18, 2010 Teleconferences was
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the November 18, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-avt-rapid-acquisition-for-rtp-17.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-behave-dns64-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-isis-ipv6-te-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-spmsi-joins-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sieve-vacation-seconds-03.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-ietf-pce-manageability-requirements-11.txt (Historic)
 o draft-ietf-radext-tcp-transport-09.txt (Experimental)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 NONE

IN PROGRESS:
 o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.
 o Michelle Cotton to provide draft of -bis document for RFC
   4020 Allocation procedures.
 o Tim Polk to update the IESG statement on choosing between
   Informational and Experimental status.
 o Alexey Melnikov to draft an IESG Statement on MIME Type Registrations
   from other SDOs, to include a statement on the stability of
   references in Media Type Registrations.

NEW:
 o Sean Turner to determine if it is safe to use the old and new
   protocol numbers in the same port [IANA #404374].

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-upstream-09
    MPLS Upstream Label Assignment for LDP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-simple-msrp-acm-09
    An Alternative Connection Model for the Message Session Relay
    Protocol (MSRP) (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Gonzalo Camarillo. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-sipcore-reinvite-07
    Re-INVITE and Target-refresh Request Handling in the Session
    Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: Robert Sparks

Gonzalo Camarillo formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Robert Sparks. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-sipcore-event-rate-control-05
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Event Notification Extension for
    Notification Rate Control (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (December 16, 2010)
by David Harrington.

  o draft-ietf-geopriv-rfc3825bis-14
    Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Options for Coordinate-based
    Location Configuration Information (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 9
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Ralph Droms and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-xmpp-3920bis-19
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Core (Proposed
    Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

Peter Saint-Andre formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Alexey Melnikov and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-xmpp-address-07
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format
    (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (December 16, 2010)
by Alexey Melnikov.

  o draft-ietf-dhc-leasequery-by-remote-id-08
    DHCPv4 lease query by Relay Agent Remote ID (Proposed Standard) - 8
    of 9
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Ralph Droms.

  o draft-ietf-mext-rfc3775bis-10
    Mobility Support in IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 9
    Token: Ralph Droms

Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion.    The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Sean Turner.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-06
    Use of Device Identity in HTTP-Enabled Location Delivery (HELD)
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-igoe-secsh-x509v3-06
    X.509v3 Certificates for Secure Shell Authentication (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Peter Saint-Andre.*

2.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-cheshire-dnsext-dns-sd-07
    DNS-Based Service Discovery (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the
teleconference.  The document will be discussed on the next
teleconference (December 16, 2010).

  o draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-12
    Multicast DNS (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the
teleconference.  The document will be discussed on the next
teleconference (December 16, 2010).

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-emu-eaptunnel-req-08
    Requirements for a Tunnel Based EAP Method (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Lars Eggert, Russ Housley and Alexey
Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-opsec-ip-security-04
    Security Assessment of the Internet Protocol version 4
    (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Stewart Bryant, Adrian Farrel, Tim Polk and
Sean Turner.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-stone-mgcp-vbd-08
    Media Gateway Control Protocol (MGCP) Voiceband Data Package (VBD)
    and General Purpose Media Descriptor Parameter Package
    (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

3.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-cheshire-dnsext-nbp-09
    Requirements for a Protocol to Replace AppleTalk NBP (Informational)
    - 1 of 1
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the
teleconference.  The document will be discussed on the next
teleconference (December 16, 2010).

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  o draft-chroboczek-babel-routing-protocol-05
    The Babel Routing Protocol (Experimental) - 1 of 2
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an IESG Note prepared by Stewart Bryant.

  o draft-tsou-diameter-explicit-routing-05
    Session-Specific Explicit Diameter Request Routing (Informational) -
    2 of 2
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3.3 For Action
  o draft-zorn-radius-keywrap-17
    Cisco Vendor Specific RADIUS Attributes for the Delivery of Keying
    Material (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document was assigned to Dan Romascanu for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Keys In DNS (kidns) - 1 of 1
    Token: Tim Polk

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending a new
name and acronym for the working group to be provided by Tim Polk.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Ad-Hoc Network Autoconfiguration (autoconf) - 1 of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The discussion of this working group was deferred to the next IESG
Teleconference (December 16, 2010).

  o Multicast Mobility (multimob) - 2 of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 3 of 3
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 IESG tools team liaison (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.  Ron Bonica volunteered to be the
new liaison to the tools team.

   6.2 Protocol Number Modification Question [IANA #404374] (Michelle
       Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item:  Sean Turner to determine if it is safe to use the old and
new protocol numbers in the same port [IANA #404374].

   6.3 ENUM Expert (Gonzalo Camarillo)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Bernie Hoeneisen
(bernie@ietf.hoeneisen.ch) as the designated expert for ENUM.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for
details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.