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Date and time 2010-10-28 15:30
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 28, 2010 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Linda Dunbar / Scribe
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Glenn Kowack / RFC Series Editor
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Hannes Tschofenig (Nokia Siemens Networks) / IAB Liaison
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Gonzalo Camarillo / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Transport Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Barry Leiba / Scribe
John Leslie / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 21, 2010 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 21, 2010 Teleconferences was
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 21, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-cridland-acap-vendor-registry-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-fecframe-sdp-elements-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mip4-generic-notification-message-16.txt (Proposed
   Standard)
 o draft-ietf-tcpm-urgent-data-07.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-arkko-townsley-coexistence-06.txt (Informational)
 o draft-c1222-transport-over-ip-07.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-netlmm-lma-discovery-08.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-16.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-v6ops-ra-guard-08.txt (Informational)
 o draft-russert-rangers-05.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for XML Schemes
   (RFC 3688).

IN PROGRESS:
 o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.
 o Michelle Cotton to provide draft of -bis document for RFC
   4020 Allocation procedures.
 o Ralph Droms will assist IANA with a response to the inquiry about
   the assignment of an EDNS0 option code point in the dns-parameters
   registry [IANA #376937].
 o Tim Polk to update the IESG statement on choosing between
   Informational and Experimental status.
 o Sean Turner and Tim Polk to make a recommendation to the IESG on the
   relationship of RFC 5996 to RFC 5282.

UPDATED:
 o Alexey Melnikov to draft an IESG Statement on MIME Type Registrations
   from other SDOs, to include a statement on the stability of
   references in Media Type Registrations.

NEW:
 NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-hierarchy-bis-08
    Procedures for Dynamically Signaled Hierarchical Label Switched
    Paths (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 5
    Token: Stewart Bryant

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Stewart Bryant.

  o draft-ietf-isis-bfd-tlv-02
    IS-IS BFD Enabled TLV (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 5
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert.*

  o draft-ietf-avt-rapid-acquisition-for-rtp-16
    Unicast-Based Rapid Acquisition of Multicast RTP Sessions (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 5
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-spmsi-joins-01
    MVPN: Customer IPv6 Using PIM Control Plane and S-PMSI Join Messages
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 5
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Stewart Bryant. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-netconf-with-defaults-12
    With-defaults capability for NETCONF (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 5
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley and Robert Sparks.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  NONE

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-lundberg-app-tei-xml-06
    The 'application/tei+xml' mediatype (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Peter Saint-Andre and Robert Sparks.*

3.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-interactions-06
    Interactions between PMIPv6 and MIPv6: scenarios and related issues
    (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Jari Arkko. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Items
  o draft-katagi-clefia-03
    The 128-bit Blockcipher CLEFIA (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Tim Polk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Tim Polk.

  o draft-irtf-rrg-recommendation-14
    Recommendation for a Routing Architecture (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document will be discussed at the IESG Teleconference immediately
following IETF 79.

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3.3 For Action

  o draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework-08
    A Framework of Media-Independent Pre-Authentication (MPA) for Inter-
    domain Handover Optimization (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Jari Arkko for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o URN Update (urnbis) - 1 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Alexey Melnikov.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the IESG Teleconference immediately following IETF 79.

  o FTP Extensions, 2nd edition (ftpext2) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Alexey Melnikov.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the IESG Teleconference immediately following IETF 79.

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Benchmarking Methodology (bmwg) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ron Bonica

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Draft of IESG Statement related to MIME type registrations
       (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.2 Alexey's presentation at W3C meeting next week (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.3 Putting old I-Ds online to support RFCDiff (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG agreed to put old I-Ds
online to support RFCDiff; this will be announced to the community
before it is implemented.

   6.4 Relationship of RFC 5996 to RFC 5282 (Tim Polk)

The management issue was discussed.  Tim Polk will will provide text for
a response to the RFC Editor about the relationship between RFC 5996 and
RFC 5282.

   6.5 Moving ietf-types mailing list to ietf.org (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.6 Comments regarding draft-ietf-l2vpn-oam-req-frmk (Stewart Bryant)

The management issue was discussed.  Stewart Bryant will follow up with
Dan Romascanu about draft-ietf-l2vpn-oam-req-frmk.

   6.7 Expert for RFC 3688 (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Jari Urpalainen
(jari.urpalainen@nokia.com) as the Expert Reviewer for XML Schema as
specified in RFC 3688.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for
details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.