Minutes interim-2010-iesg-02 2010-01-21 16:30
minutes-interim-2010-iesg-02-201001211630-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 21, 2010 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Linden Labs) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 7, 2010 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 7, 2010 Teleconference were
approved as amended.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes
in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 7, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-eastlake-nlpid-iana-considerations-04.txt (BCP)
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-confirm-data-channel-status-09.txt (Proposed
    Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-fecframe-interleaved-fec-scheme-09.txt (Proposed
    Standard)
  o draft-ietf-idnabis-tables-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mboned-rfc3171bis-08.txt (BCP)
  o draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-20.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tls-renegotiation-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-nottingham-site-meta-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ohba-pana-pemk-04.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-eai-downgraded-display-03.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-idnabis-rationale-17.txt (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-ospf-manet-or-03.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-roll-home-routing-reqs-11.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Cullen Jennings and Alexey Melnikov to propose updated text for the
    response to the YAM working group in regards to rfc1652bis-pre-
    evaluation.

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Lars Eggert and Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one
    document updates another.
  o Russ Housley will make sure that the documents that specify the I-D
    boilerplate get updated to reflect the new alternate text.

NEW
  o Robert Sparks to check with the MMUSIC working group about what
    should be done with this media type registration and report back
    to the IESG at the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010).

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-behave-turn-uri-08.txt
    Traversal Using Relays around NAT (TURN) Resolution Mechanism
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-6man-iana-routing-header-00.txt
    IANA Allocation Guidelines for the IPv6 Routing Header (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by
Ralph Droms. The Secretariat will send a working group submission
Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

2.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-kato-tls-rfc4132bis-04.txt
    Camellia Cipher Suites for TLS (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 5
    Token: Tim Polk

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Tim Polk. The Secretariat will send an individual submission
Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

  o draft-bryan-metalink-25.txt
    The Metalink Download Description Format (Proposed Standard) - 2 of
    5
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Alexey Melnikov
and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-jabley-sink-arpa-03.txt
    The Eternal Non-Existence of SINK.ARPA (and other stories) (BCP) -
    3 of 5
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-jabley-reverse-servers-01.txt
    Nameservers for IPv4 and IPv6 Reverse Zones (BCP) - 4 of 5
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o rfc3848.txt
    ESMTP and LMTP Transmission Types Registration (Draft Standard) -
    5 of 5
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send
an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning Item
  o draft-moriarty-post-inch-rid-09.txt
    Real-time Inter-network Defense (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lisa Dusseault, Cullen Jennings, Alexey Melnikov, Dan
Romascanu and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-atlas-icmp-unnumbered-09.txt
    Extending ICMP for Interface and Next-hop Identification (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

Ron Bonica formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send an individual submission
Protocol Action Announcement.

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-nsis-qos-nslp-17.txt
    NSLP for Quality-of-Service Signaling (Experimental) - 1 of 6
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ross Callon.*

  o draft-ietf-nsis-qspec-23.txt
    QoS NSLP QSPEC Template (Experimental) - 2 of 6
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-hokey-preauth-ps-11.txt
    Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) Early Authentication
    Problem Statement (Informational) - 3 of 6
    Token: Tim Polk

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-pkix-new-asn1-07.txt
    New ASN.1 Modules for PKIX (Informational) - 4 of 6
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-e2e-rsvp-te-reqts-05.txt
    Requirements for supporting Customer RSVP and RSVP-TE over a
    BGP/MPLS IP-VPN (Informational) - 5 of 6
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-capwap-base-mib-08.txt
    CAPWAP Protocol Base MIB (Informational) - 6 of 6
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-gennai-smime-cnipa-pec-05.txt
    Certified Electronic Mail (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica, Russ Housley and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-pana-preauth-08.txt
    Pre-authentication Support for PANA (Experimental) - 2 of 4
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-bryan-http-digest-algorithm-values-update-04.txt
    Additional Hash Algorithms for HTTP Instance Digests
    (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-brown-versioning-link-relations-06.txt
    Link Relations for Simple Version Navigation (Informational) -
    4 of 4
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Lisa Dusseault. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
    NONE

3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Messaging Abuse Reporting Format (marf) - 1 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
addition of chairs and edits to the text for the charter to be provided
by Alexey Melnikov.  The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

  o BiDirectional or Server-Initiated HTTP (hybi) - 2 of 4
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

  o Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec) - 3 of 4
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
addition of chairs to be provided by Cullen Jennings.  The Secretariat
will send a WG Action announcement.

  o Internationalized Resource Identifiers (iri) - 4 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  o Audio/Video Transport (avt) - 1 of 1
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter
pending edits to the text to be supplied by Robert Sparks.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the
WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Network-Based Mobility Extensions (netext) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The charter was discussed. The Secretariat will place the WG on the
agenda for the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010).

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issues
 6.1 IAOC Candidate Confirmation (Executive Session) (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG confirmed the candidate
provided by the NomCom.

 6.2 Registration of media type application/iptv_rtsp (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item:  Robert Sparks to check with the MMUSIC working group
about what should be done with this media type registration and report
back to the IESG at the next IESG teleconference (February 4, 2010).

 6.3 Approval of IANA expert reviewer for the RObust Header Compression
     (ROHC) Profile Identifiers registry (Magnus Westerlund)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Carl Knutsson
(carl.knutsson@effnet.com) as the expert reviewer for the RObust Header
Compression (ROHC) Profile Identifiers registry.

 6.4 Expediting draft-ietf-tls-renegotiation (Pasi Eronen)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG informally asked the RFC
Editor to expedite the editing of this document.

 6.5 Adding WG secretaries to the WG chairs list (Adrian Farrel)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved adding working
group secretaries to the wgchairs email list.

 6.6 IESG statement on editorship and authorship (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG decided not to publish
this IESG statement.

 6.7 Validity of downreferences in rfc1652bis (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was not discussed because a response was already
sent to the YAM working group.

 6.8 Are IANA experts anonymous (Cullen Jennings)

The management issue was discussed. IANA is changing their procedures to
be more transparent.

 6.9 IESG feedback on Service over Cloud-based System  (SOCS)
     BOF proposal needed (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.10 IESG expectations for IESG tracker rewrite (Pasi Eronen)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News

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