Minutes interim-2009-iesg-21 2009-11-19 16:30
minutes-interim-2009-iesg-21-200911191630-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the November 19, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Linden Labs) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 22, 2009 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 22, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 22, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-avt-rtcpssm-19.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dime-nai-routing-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-resumption-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mext-binding-revocation-14.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-3209-patherr-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-gach-dcn-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-req-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pkix-ta-format-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-rmt-pi-alc-revised-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-sip-connect-reuse-14.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-sip-eku-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-peterson-rai-rfc3427bis-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-wilde-sms-uri-20.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-eai-pop-09.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-hip-nat-traversal-09.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-ipv6-config-03.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-msec-tesla-for-alc-norm-10.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-framework-13.txt (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-smime-new-asn1-07.txt (Informational)
  o draft-templin-ranger-09.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Russ Housley to work with the Secretariat to come up with an
    implementation plan for tracking changes to working group
    charters.

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new Atom Link
    Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol and report back at the
    next telechat (December 3, 2009).  If the requesters do not
    respond, IANA advises to let it go as neither Lisa or IANA have
    gotten a response.
  o Lars Eggert and Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one
    document updates another.

NEW
  o Jari Arkko to find an expert for eapsimaka-numbers (RFC 4187) [IANA
    #276892].

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-syslog-sign-28.txt
    Signed syslog Messages (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Cullen Jennings, Alexey Melnikov, Tim
Polk, Dan Romascanu and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-mboned-rfc3171bis-07.txt
    IANA Guidelines for IPv4 Multicast Address Assignments (BCP) - 2 of
    7
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-6man-overlap-fragment-03.txt
    Handling of overlapping IPv6 fragments (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-pkix-authorityclearanceconstraints-03.txt
    Clearance Attribute and Authority Clearance Constraints Certificate
    Extension (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-dna-simple-11.txt
    Simple procedures for Detecting Network Attachment in IPv6
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 7
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms.*

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-connectivity-precon-06.txt
    Connectivity Preconditions for Session Description Protocol Media
    Streams (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov, Tim Polk and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-forces-sctptml-06.txt
    SCTP based TML (Transport Mapping Layer) for ForCES protocol
    (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 7
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Adrian Farrel, Dan Romascanu and Magnus
Westerlund.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-mipshop-pfmipv6-10.txt
    Fast Handovers for Proxy Mobile IPv6 (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen and Russ
Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-2547bis-mcast-bgp-08.txt
    BGP Encodings and Procedures for Multicast in MPLS/BGP IP VPNs
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
    NONE

2.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-graceful-shutdown-12.txt
    Graceful Shutdown in MPLS and Generalized MPLS Traffic Engineering
    Networks (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-term-12.txt
    Terminology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel and Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-ipsec-meth-05.txt
    Methodology for Benchmarking IPsec Devices (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Adrian Farrel.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-turner-deviceowner-attribute-02.txt
    Device Owner Attribute (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-turner-clearancesponsor-attribute-02.txt
    Clearance Sponsor Attribute (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

  o draft-carpenter-renum-needs-work-04.txt
    Renumbering still needs work (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms.*

  o draft-melnikov-sasl-scram-ldap-04.txt
    LDAP schema for storing SCRAM secrets (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Pasi Eronen

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Pasi Eronen.

3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
  o draft-nsri-aria-03.txt
    A Description of the ARIA Encryption Algorithm (Informational) - 1
    of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Russ Housley.

3.3.2 Returning Item
  o draft-levy-sip-diversion-10.txt
    Diversion Indication in SIP (Historic) - 1 of 1
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Cullen Jennings.*

3.3.3 For Action
  o draft-mavrogiannopoulos-rfc5081bis-03.txt
    Using OpenPGP Keys for Transport Layer Security (TLS)
    Authentication Extensions (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Pasi Eronen for 3932 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o HTTP State Management Mechanism (http-state) - 1 of 1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review with the acronym
"httpstate."  The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with
a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place
the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (December 3,
2009).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Internet Area Working Group (intarea) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
addition of chairs and edits to the text of the charter to be provided
by Jari Arkko.  The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Handover Keying (hokey) - 1 of 1
    Token: Tim Polk

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

6.1 Approval of expert reviewer for registries defined in RFC 2425
(Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Kurt Zeilenga
(kurt.zeilenga@isode.com) as the expert reviewer for registries defined
in RFC 2425.

 6.2 Expert for eapsimaka-numbers (RFC 4187) [IANA #276892] (Michelle
Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Vesa Lehtovirta
(vesa.lehtovirta@ericsson.com) as the expert for eapsimaka-numbers (RFC
4187) pending his acceptance of the appointment.

Action item: Jari Arkko to find an expert for eapsimaka-numbers (RFC
4187) [IANA #276892]

 6.3 WG Chair Change (Cullen Jennings)

The management issue was discussed.  Cullen plans to add an additional
chair to the ENUM working group.

 6.4 Problem with draft-ietf-avt-seed-srtp (Cullen Jennings)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.5 IPR on draft-ietf-sip-session-policy-framework (Cullen Jennings)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.6 Note requesting feedback on IAOC candidate (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  Russ will send a request for
comments on the IAOC candidate out to the community today.

 6.7 LISP WG Chairs (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News

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