Minutes interim-2009-iesg-16 2009-08-27 15:30
minutes-interim-2009-iesg-16-200908271530-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 27, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 13, 2009 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 13, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 13, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-hollenbeck-rfc4934bis-01.txt (Standard)
  o draft-iana-rfc3330bis-11.txt (BCP)
  o draft-ietf-btns-connection-latching-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ipfix-file-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-sip-record-route-fix-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-sip-xcapevent-08.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-ason-routing-ospf-09.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-pwe3-ms-pw-arch-07.txt (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-roll-indus-routing-reqs-06.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Jari Arkko to continue discussion with Henrik Levkowetz about
    enabling proper filtering to email aliases existing on the tools
    server.
  o Robert Sparks to talk to Tom Taylor about Christian Groves taking
    over as MEGACO expert.
  o Dan Romascanu to draft text for the IESG wiki about how to handle
    having two chairs from the same company.

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE
    P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document.

NEW:
  o Russ Housley to work with the Secretariat to come up with an
    implementation plan for tracking changes to working group charters.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-simple-xcap-diff-13.txt
    An Extensible Markup Language (XML) Document Format for Indicating
    A Change in XML Configuration Access Protocol (XCAP) Resources
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-multimetrics-11.txt
    IP Performance Metrics (IPPM) for spatial and multicast (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 7
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-hmac-sha-06.txt
    OSPFv2 HMAC-SHA Cryptographic Authentication (Proposed Standard) -
    3 of 7
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Cullen Jennings and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-alarm-02.txt
    Alarms in SYSLOG (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

  o draft-ietf-mext-binding-revocation-10.txt
    Binding Revocation for IPv6 Mobility (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 7
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Pasi Eronen, Russ Housley and Robert
Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-vcarddav-webdav-mkcol-06.txt
    Extended MKCOL for WebDAV (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ntp-dhcpv6-ntp-opt-04.txt
    Network Time Protocol (NTP) Server Option for DHCPv6 (Proposed
    Standard) - 7 of 7
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley, Cullen Jennings, Alexey
Melnikov and Tim Polk.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Item
  o draft-green-secsh-ecc-08.txt
    Elliptic-Curve Algorithm Integration in the Secure Shell Transport
    Layer (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

  o draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-08.txt
    IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream
    Submissions (BCP) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (September 10,
2009) by Cullen Jennings.

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-behave-nat-behavior-discovery-07.txt
    NAT Behavior Discovery Using STUN (Experimental) - 1 of 4
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lisa Dusseault, Cullen Jennings and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls-forwarding-meth-05.txt
    MPLS Forwarding Benchmarking Methodology for IP Flows
    (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-mext-aero-reqs-04.txt
    Network Mobility Route Optimization Requirements for Operational
    Use in Aeronautics and Space Exploration Mobile Networks
    (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Jari Arkko.

  o draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-transport-04.txt
    Application of Ethernet Pseudowires to MPLS Transport Networks
    (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-ospf-manet-or-02.txt
    Extensions to OSPF to Support Mobile Ad Hoc Networking
    (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Alexey Melnikov and Tim Polk.*

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Item
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o SIP Common Log Format (clf) - 1 of 1
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG agreed that the acronym for this working group should be
"sipclf."  The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review
pending edits to be provided by Robert Sparks.  The Secretariat will
send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-
work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the
next IESG Teleconference (September 10, 2009).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Multicast Mobility (multimob) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits
to be provided by Jari Arkko.  The Secretariat will send a WG Action
announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Internationalized Domain Names in Applications, Revised (idnabis) -
    1 of 2
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The discussion of this charter was deferred to the next teleconference
(September 10, 2009) by Ralph Droms.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

 6.1 Tracking changes to WG charters (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Russ Housley to work with the Secretariat to come up with
an implementation plan for tracking changes to working group charters.

 6.2 Should ADs have access to passwords to mailing lists for their
respective areas? (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.3 Two chairs from the same company (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the proposed
text.  This text will be added to the IESG wiki at
http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iesg/trac/wiki/ManageWorkingGroup and
communicated over the working group chairs email list.

 6.4 Status of 128.66.0.0/16 [IANA #256883] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.5 3932bis discussion (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.6 Approval of expert for RFC 2616 (http-parameters) registry
     (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Roy Fielding
(fielding@gbiv.com) as the primary expert for the RFC 2616
(http-parameters) registry.

7. Working Group News

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