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Date and time 2009-08-13 15:30
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minutes-interim-2009-iesg-15-200908131530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 13, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area

REGRETS
---------------------------------
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

MINUTES
---------------------------------

1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the July 16, 2009 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the July 16, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the July 16, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-dkim-rfc4871-errata-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-l2tpext-circuit-status-extensions-05.txt (Proposed
    Standard)
  o draft-ietf-monami6-multiplecoa-14.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ospf-dynamic-hostname-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pkix-3281update-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pwe3-vccv-bfd-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-smime-rfc3852bis-00.txt (Draft Standard)
  o draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc2581bis-07.txt (Draft Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-housley-aes-key-wrap-with-pad-04.txt (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-nsis-ntlp-20.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-igoe-secsh-aes-gcm-03.txt (Informational)
  o draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions-16.txt (Experimental)
  o draft-sinnreich-sip-tools-07.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Ron Bonica to find an author to write a document that explains why
    additional private address space is not a good idea.

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Jari Arkko to continue discussion with Henrik Levkowetz about
    enabling proper filtering to email aliases existing on the tools
    server.

NEW:
  o Robert Sparks to talk to Tom Taylor about Christian Groves taking
    over as MEGACO expert.
  o Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE
    P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document.
  o Dan Romascanu to draft text for the IESG wiki about how to handle
    having two chairs from the same company.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-lct-revised-10.txt
    Layered Coding Transport (LCT) Building Block (Proposed Standard) -
    1 of 13
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-sieve-mime-loop-09.txt
    Sieve Email Filtering: MIME part Tests, Iteration, Extraction,
    Replacement and Enclosure (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 13
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion. The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-end-of-lib-03.txt
    LDP End-of-LIB (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 13
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-netconf-partial-lock-09.txt
    Partial Lock RPC for NETCONF (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 13
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel, Alexey Melnikov, Tim Polk
and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-nea-pa-tnc-04.txt
    PA-TNC: A Posture Attribute Protocol (PA) Compatible with TNC
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 13
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Russ Housley and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-nea-pb-tnc-04.txt
    PB-TNC: A Posture Broker Protocol (PB) Compatible with TNC
    (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 13
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Russ Housley, Alexey Melnikov, Robert
Sparks and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-dime-diameter-qos-11.txt
    Diameter Quality of Service Application (Proposed Standard) - 7 of
    13
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-snmp-05.txt
    Mapping Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Notifications to
    SYSLOG Messages (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 13
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-syslog-msg-mib-05.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for Mapping SYSLOG Messages to
    Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Notifications (Proposed
    Standard) - 9 of 13
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Pasi Eronen, Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-as4octet-ext-community-03.txt
    Four-octet AS Specific BGP Extended Community (Proposed Standard) -
    10 of 13
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-requirements-09.txt
    MPLS-TP Requirements (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 13
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-v6-ext-communities-02.txt
    IPv6 Address Specific BGP Extended Communities Attribute (Proposed
    Standard) - 12 of 13
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-06.txt
    Sieve Email Filtering: Sieves and display directives in XML
    (Proposed Standard) - 13 of 13
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Russ Housley.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-iana-rfc3330bis-08.txt
    Special Use IPv4 Addresses (BCP) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Adrian Farrel.*

2.2.2 Returning Item
 o draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-07.txt
    IESG Procedures for Handling of Independent and IRTF Stream
    Submissions (BCP) - 1 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

  o draft-dusseault-impl-reports-04.txt
    Guidance on Interoperation and Implementation Reports for
    Advancement to Draft Standard (BCP) - 2 of 2
    Token: Tim Polk

Lisa Dusseault and Robert Sparks formally recused themselves from the
discussion.  The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat
will send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that
includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Tim Polk.

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-03.txt
    IPFIX Export per SCTP Stream (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Adrian Farrel and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-transport-04.txt
    Application of Ethernet Pseudowires to MPLS Transport Networks
    (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (August 27, 2009)
by Ross Callon.

3.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
 o draft-iana-special-ipv4-registry-02.txt
    IANA IPv4 Special Purpose Address Registry (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Item
 o draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-07.txt
    Transport Layer Security (TLS) Authorization Extensions
    (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Tim Polk

Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Alexey Melnikov.*

3.3 Independent Submissions Via IRTF
3.3.1 New Item
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Item
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Multicast Mobility (multimob)  - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (August 27, 2009).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  o Internationalized Domain Names in Applications, Revised (idnabis) -
    1 of 1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the
WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (August 27, 2009).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Mobility for IPv4 (mip4) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
edits to the charter to be provided by Jari Arkko.  The Secretariat
will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

  6.1 IETF Review of ITU-T MPLS-TP Documents (Adrian Farrel)

This management issue was removed from the agenda prior to the start of
the teleconference.

  6.2 Issue last call for Language Tag experts as per draft-ietf-ltru-
      4646bis-23 (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the text for the
Last Call for Language Tag experts as per draft-ietf-ltru-4646bis-23.

  6.3 Status of 128.66.0.0/16 [IANA #256883] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

  6.4 Expert for Megaco [IANA #257207] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action Item:  Robert Sparks to talk to Tom Taylor about Christian
Groves taking over as MEGACO expert.

  6.5 Approve expert reviewers for draft-ietf-calsify-rfc2445bis (Lisa
      Dusseault)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Bernard
Desruisseaux and Cyrus Daboo as expert reviewers for draft-ietf-
calsify-rfc2445bis.

  6.6 Backup Media Type expert reviewer (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG appointed Mark Baker
(distobj@acm.org) as the backup Media type (MIME) Expert Reviewer.

  6.7 ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer
      messages over IP (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

Action Item:  Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-
2008 / IEEE P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP
document.

  6.8 Two chairs one company (Adrian Farrel)

The management issue was discussed.

Action Item:  Dan Romascanu to draft text for the IESG wiki about how
to handle having two chairs from the same company.

7. Working Group News

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on documents that are under discussion by the IESG