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Date and time 2009-02-12 16:30
Title Minutes interim-2009-iesg-04 2009-02-12 16:30
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minutes-interim-2009-iesg-04-200902121630-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 12, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Ward (Cisco) / Routing Area

REGRETS
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Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 29, 2009 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 29, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved with changes.  The Secretariat will place the narrative
minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 29, 2009 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-magma-mgmd-mib-15.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mext-nemo-mib-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-netid-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-pwe3-tdm-mib-11.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-housley-internet-draft-sig-file-08.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-psk-05.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Dave Ward to write up a project plan to document RSYNC
 o Russ Housley and Dave Ward to write the BCP 115 Exception Last
   Call.
 o Russ Housley to send the draft IESG statement on chartered work
   overcome by events before IESG consideration to the IETF community
   for comment.

DELETED:
 NONE

IN PROGRESS:
 o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.

NEW: 
  NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-05.txt (1 of 2)
    Dissemination of flow specification rules (Proposed Standard)
    Token: David Ward

Ross Callon formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Jari Arkko, Lisa Dusseault, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-duplicate-07.txt (2 of 2)
    A One-Way Packet Duplication Metric (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-forces-protocol-21.txt (1 of 2)
    ForCES Protocol Specification (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-08.txt (2 of 2)
    The RPF Vector TLV (Proposed Standard)
    Token: David Ward

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-arkko-arp-iana-rules-06.txt (1 of 1)
    IANA Allocation Guidelines for the Address Resolution Protocol
    (ARP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-eai-downgrade-11.txt (1 of 3)
    Downgrading mechanism for Email Address Internationalization
    (Experimental)
    Token: Chris Newman

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

o draft-ietf-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-06.txt (2 of 3)
    Requirements for the Conversion Between Permanent Connections and
    Switched Connections in a Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching
    (GMPLS) Network (Informational)
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Ross Callon. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

o draft-ietf-ccamp-gr-description-04.txt (3 of 3)
    Description of the RSVP-TE Graceful Restart Procedures
    (Informational)
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-reqts-07.txt (1 of 1)
    Requirements for Multicast Support in Virtual Private LAN Services
    (Informational)
    Token: Mark Townsley

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via IRTF
3.3.1 New Item
  o draft-irtf-routing-history-09.txt (1 of 2)
    Analysis of Inter-Domain Routing Requirements and History
    (Historic)
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica.*

  o draft-irtf-routing-reqs-10.txt (2 of 2)
    A Set of Possible Requirements for a Future Routing Architecture
    (Historic)
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica.*

3.3.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3.3 For Action
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Inter-Domain Routing (idr)
    Token: Dave Ward

The IESG decided to proceed with internal review of the revised
charter. The Secretariat will send an Internal WG Review: Recharter
announcement to the IAB, IESG and IDR Working Group chairs.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
  6.1 Late IPR declarations (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

  6.2 Document Submission cutoff for IETF 74 (Tim Polk)

The discussion of this management issue was tabled until the next
teleconference (February 26, 2009).

  6.3 IESG Statement on Activities that are OBE (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG tabled the proposal to
send this IESG Statement.

  6.4 Potential Notes in EAP-FAST Documents (Tim Polk)

The management issue was discussed.

  6.5 Request for ATOM Link Relation [IANA #209057] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG rejected the request to
add a new Atom Link Relation "schema" as a parameter in the "IESG
approval" registry.

  6.6 ATOM Link Relations requests [IANA #221766] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the request to
add a new Atom Link relation "describedby" as a parameter in the "IESG
approval" registry.

  6.7 Clarification about announcements of virtual interim meetings
      (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News We Can Use


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* Please see the ID Tracker
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
on documents that are under discussion by the IESG