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Date and time 2008-11-06 16:30
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minutes-interim-2008-iesg-21-200811061630-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the November 06, 2008 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Ward (IEng) / Routing Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 23, 2008 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 23, 2008 Teleconference were
approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 23, 2008 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

o draft-ietf-capwap-dhc-ac-option-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ccamp-isis-interas-te-extension-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-interas-te-extension-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ippm-storetraceroutes-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gss-v2-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sip-fork-loop-fix-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sipping-race-examples-06.txt (BCP)
o draft-sanchez-webdav-current-principal-02.txt (Proposed Standard)


1.2.2 Document Actions

o draft-bryant-mpls-tp-jwt-report-00.txt (Informational)
o draft-hautakorpi-sipping-uri-list-handling-refused-03.txt
(Informational)
o draft-ietf-pce-policy-enabled-path-comp-04.txt (Informational)
o draft-ietf-sipping-overload-reqs-05.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

o Jari Arkko to assist IANA on registration procedures for ARP Hardware
Type.
o Chris Newman to write a response to the query on what the IESG Statement
on Spam Control means.

DELETED:

NONE

IN PROGRESS:

o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
o Dave Ward to write up a project plan to document RSYNC
o Russ Housley and Dave Ward to write the BCP 115 Exception Last Call.

NEW:

o Dan Romascanu to draft an IESG Statement recommending that proposed
status for IETF documents reserving the values, numbers, addresses, etc.
for example purposes should be BCP.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-sipping-cc-transfer-11.txt - 1 of 10
Session Initiation Protocol Call Control - Transfer (BCP)
Token: Jon Peterson

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings.*

o draft-ietf-emu-eap-gpsk-16.txt - 2 of 10
EAP Generalized Pre-Shared Key (EAP-GPSK) Method (Proposed Standard)
Token: Pasi Eronen

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen on behalf of IANA.*

o draft-ietf-sip-sips-08.txt - 3 of 10
The use of the SIPS URI Scheme in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
(Proposed Standard)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

o draft-ietf-psamp-info-11.txt - 4 of 10
Information Model for Packet Sampling Exports (Proposed Standard)
Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu on behalf of IANA and David Ward.*

o draft-ietf-mmusic-qos-identification-02.txt - 5 of 10
Quality of Service (QoS) Mechanism Selection in the Session Description
Protocol (SDP) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu and Magnus Westerlund.*

o draft-ietf-avt-rfc4749-dtx-update-02.txt - 6 of 10
G.729.1 RTP Payload Format update: DTX support (Proposed Standard)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Magnus Westerlund.*

o draft-ietf-avt-dtls-srtp-06.txt - 7 of 10
Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) Extension to Establish Keys for
Secure Real-time Transport Protocol (SRTP) (Proposed Standard)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings, Chris Newman, and Magnus Westerlund.*

o draft-ietf-behave-dccp-04.txt - 8 of 10
Network Address Translation (NAT) Behavioral Requirements for the Datagram
Congestion Control Protocol (BCP)
Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

o draft-ietf-sip-dtls-srtp-framework-05.txt - 9 of 10
Framework for Establishing an SRTP Security Context using DTLS (Proposed
Standard)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Pasi Eronen, and Russ Housley.*

o draft-ietf-vrrp-unified-spec-02.txt - 10 of 10
Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol Version 3 for IPv4 and IPv6 (Proposed
Standard)
Token: David Ward

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, and Dan Romascanu.*

2.1.2 Returning Item

NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
o draft-kato-ipsec-camellia-modes-09.txt - 1 of 1
Modes of Operation for Camellia for Use With IPsec (Proposed Standard)
Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Chris Newman.*

2.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
o draft-ietf-enum-combined-08.txt - 1 of 5
Combined User and Infrastructure ENUM in the e164.arpa tree
(Informational)
Token: Jon Peterson

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

o draft-ietf-enum-infrastructure-07.txt - 2 of 5
The E.164 to Uniform Resource Identifiers (URI) Dynamic Delegation
Discovery System (DDDS) Application for Infrastructure ENUM
(Informational)
Token: Jon Peterson

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Jon Peterson.  The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the
RFC Editor Note.

o draft-ietf-sip-media-security-requirements-08.txt - 3 of 5
Requirements and Analysis of Media Security Management Protocols
(Informational)
Token: Cullen Jennings

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Cuullen Jennings.  The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

o draft-ietf-behave-stun-test-vectors-03.txt - 4 of 5
Test vectors for STUN (Informational)
Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

o draft-ietf-idr-as-documentation-reservation-00.txt - 5 of 5
AS Number Reservation for Documentation Use (Informational)
Token: David Ward

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning Item
o draft-ietf-smime-bfibecms-10.txt - 1 of 2
Using the Boneh-Franklin and Boneh-Boyen identity-based Encryption
Algorithms with the Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) (Informational)
Token: Tim Polk

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

o draft-ietf-smime-ibearch-09.txt - 2 of 2
Identity-based Encryption Architecture and Supporting Data Structures
(Informational)
Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lisa Dusseault.*

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
o draft-narten-successful-bof-03.txt - 1 of 3
Considerations for Having a Successful BOF (Informational)
Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*

o draft-kato-camellia-ctrccm-04.txt - 2 of 3
Camellia Counter mode and Camellia Counter with CBC Mac mode algorithms
(Informational)
Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Chris Newman.*

o draft-rescorla-tls-suiteb-10.txt - 3 of 3
Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS) (Informational)
Token: Tim Polk

Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by
Pasi Eronen.*

3.2.2 Returning Item

NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
o draft-irtf-iccrg-cc-rfcs-07.txt - 1 of 1
Congestion Control in the RFC Series (Informational)
Token: Lars Eggert

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.
Lars Eggert has prepared a "no problem" message, and the Secretariat will
send to the IRSG with a copy to the RFC Editor.

3.3.2 Returning Item

NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
o Application-Layer Traffic Optimization (alto) - 1 of 2
Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

o Low Extra Delay Background Transport (ledbat) - 2 of 2
Token: Lars Eggert

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
creation of the ledbat mailing list.  The Secretariat will send a WG
Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 1 of 2
Token: Magnus Westerlund

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

o Mobility for IP: Performance, Signaling and Handoff Optimization
(mipshop) - 2 of 2
Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
6.1 Message to IANA regarding address range reservation for IETF protocols
(Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the text for the
message to IANA regarding address range reservation for IETF protocols.

6.2 Large Interim Meeting Agenda (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

6.3 New Geopriv co-chair (Cullen Jennings)

The management issue was discussed.  The RAI Area Directors appointed
Richard Barnes as co-chair of the GEOPRIV WG.

6.4 Use of WebEx technology at IETF experiment in Minneapolis and Malta
(Dave Ward)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved an experiment to use
WebEx technology on a volunteer basis at the Minneapolis IETF meeting.

6.5 Mail List Management (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

6.6 Liaison to IEEE 802.1  (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 http://emergency.ietf.org/ (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News We Can Use



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