Minutes interim-2008-iesg-15 2008-08-14 15:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the August 14, 2008 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
    Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
    Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
    Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
    Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
    Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
    Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
    Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
    John Leslie / Scribe
    Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
    Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
    Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
    Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
    Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

    REGRETS
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    Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
    Spencer Dawkins (Huawei (USA)) / Scribe
    Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
    Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
    Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
    Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
    Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
    Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
    Dave Ward (Cisco) / Routing Area
    Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia

    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The approval of the minutes of the July 17, 2008 Teleconference was deferred to
    the next teleconference (August 28, 2008).

    The approval of the narrative minutes of the July 17, 2008 Teleconference was
    deferred to the next teleconference (August 28, 2008).

    1.2 Documents Approved since the July 17, 2008 IESG Teleconference

    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-eastlake-ethernet-iana-considerations-08.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-behave-rfc3489bis-18.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-imss-fc-fcsp-mib-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-isis-rfc2763bis-00.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-isis-rfc3567bis-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-isis-rfc3847bis-00.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-isis-rfc4205bis-00.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-isis-te-bis-00.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-traffic-13.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-psamp-protocol-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-psamp-sample-tech-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-sip-multiple-refer-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-klensin-rfc2821bis-11.txt (Draft Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-dharkins-siv-aes-05.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-mln-eval-06.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-eai-smtpext-13.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-eai-utf8headers-12.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-hip-applications-04.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-mext-aaa-ha-goals-01.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-rserpool-asap-21.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-rserpool-common-param-18.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-rserpool-enrp-21.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-rserpool-policies-10.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-rserpool-threats-15.txt (Informational)
    o draft-zhu-pkinit-ecc-04.txt (Informational)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:
    NONE

    DELETED:
    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.

    NEW:
    NONE

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-ippm-storetraceroutes-10.txt
    Information Model and XML Data Model for Traceroute Measurements (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 6
    Token: Lars Eggert

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Cullen Jennings, Chris Newman and Dan Romascanu.*

    o draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-13.txt
    TLS Transport Mapping for Syslog (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 6
    Token: Pasi Eronen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Chris Newman.*

    o draft-ietf-pwe3-pw-tc-mib-14.txt
    Definitions of Textual Conventions for Pseudowires (PW) Management
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 6
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-guidelines-09.txt
    Guidelines for Application Designers on Using Unicast UDP (BCP) - 4 of 6
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

    Lars Eggert formally recused himself from the discussion.

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

    o draft-ietf-opsawg-snmp-engineid-discovery-03.txt
    Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Context EngineID Discovery
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 6
    Token: Dan Romascanu

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    place the document on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (August
    28, 2008).*

    o draft-ietf-lemonade-msgevent-06.txt
    Internet Message Store Events (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 6
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

    Chris Newman formally recused himself from the discussion.

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    o draft-manner-router-alert-iana-03.txt
    IANA Considerations for the IPv4 and IPv6 Router Alert Option (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    place the document on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (August
    28, 2008).*

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    NONE

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    o draft-zhou-emu-fast-gtc-04.txt
    Basic Password Exchange within the Flexible Authentication via Secure
    Tunneling Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP-FAST) (Informational) - 1
    of 2
    Token: Tim Polk

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Jari Arkko and Pasi Eronen.*

    o draft-andreasen-mgcp-fax-08.txt
    Media Gateway Control Protocol Fax Package (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Cullen Jennings

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor Note
    prepared by Cullen Jennings.

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks (l2vpn) - 1 of 1
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter
    pending additional text to be supplied by Jari Arkko. The Secretariat
    will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
    the next IESG teleconference (August 28, 2008).

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    5. IAB News We can use

    6. Management Issue

    6.1 No New Ballot Sets (Pasi Eronen)

    The management issue was discussed, but a decision deferred until the next
    teleconference (August 28, 2008).

    6.2 Printer designated experts (Chris Newman)

    The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will send a message
    to the IESG asking to approve Ron Bergman (ron.bergman@ricoh-usa.com) and
    Harry Lewis (harryl@us.ibm.com) as designated experts for the printer
    registries.

    6.3 Updating the RFC Editor index? (Sandy Ginoza)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved marking RFC 3032
    as being updated by RFCs 3270 and 5129 (and vice versa).

    6.4 Designated expert for ethernet-numbers [IANA #182998] (Michelle Cotton)

    The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will send a message
    to the IESG asking to approve Dan Romascanu (dromasca@avaya.com) as the
    ethernet-numbers expert for the recently approved document:
    draft-eastlake-ethernet-iana-considerations.

    6.5 IESG Requirements for NomCom (UPDATED) (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed, but a decision deferred until the next
    teleconference (August 28, 2008).

    6.6 Friday Meetings in Minneapolis (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed, but a decision deferred until the next
    teleconference (August 28, 2008).

    6.7 Modification to a SASL Mechanism [IANA #178703] (Michelle Cotton)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.8 Register IMAP Child Mailbox Extension [IANA #111861] (Chris Newman)

    The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will send a message
    to the IESG asking to approve a one-time exception to register informational
    RFC 3348, The Internet Message Action Protocol (IMAP4) Child Mailbox
    Extension, in the IMAP capability registry.

    6.9 IESG web page update (Pasi Eronen)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the new IESG web page.

    6.10 Confirm additional port numbers expert [IANA #184019] (Michelle Cotton)

    The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will send a message
    to the IESG asking to approve Tom Phelan (tphelan@sonusnet.com) as an
    additional port numbers expert.

    6.11 Revised guidance for interim meetings (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed, but a decision deferred until the next
    teleconference (August 28, 2008).

    6.12 v4-v6 interim (Jari Arkko)

    The management issue was discussed.

    7. Agenda Working Group News

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