Minutes interim-2008-iesg-04 2008-02-21 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the February 21, 2008 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES

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    Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
    Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
    Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
    Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
    Spencer Dawkins (Huawei (USA)) / Scribe
    Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
    Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
    Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Incoming Security Area
    Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
    Sam Hartman (MIT) / Security Area
    Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
    Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
    Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
    Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
    Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
    Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
    Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
    Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
    Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

    REGRETS

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    Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
    Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
    Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
    Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
    Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
    Dave Ward (IEng) / Routing Area

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the February 7, 2008 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
    archives.

    The narrative minutes of the February 7, 2008 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
    public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved since the February 7, 2008 IESG
    Teleconference

    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-compression-nego-v2-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-isis-ipv6-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-pkix-rfc3280bis-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-sip-consent-framework-04.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-creed-ogc-urn-03.txt (Informational)
    o draft-irtf-tmrg-metrics-11.txt (Informational)
    o draft-jayasumana-reorder-density-08.txt (Informational)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Lisa Dusseault to develop statement about IESG policy with
    respect to RFC 3406 registrations.
    o Tim Polk to process at least two errata for Security Area specs.
    DEADLINE: February 21, 2008.
    o Lisa Dusseault to resolve the ambiguity in registration requirements
    in RFC 3866.
    o Mark Townsley to decide and report whether RFC 2784 is an update to
    1701 or not.
    o Cullen Jennings to draft a response for the chair to reply to the
    ITU-T on the subject of ITU-T/IANA coordination.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Sam Hartman to write a draft explanation of informational
    balloting.
    o Lars Eggert to find primary and secondary experts for Port Numbers.
    o Cullen Jennings to develop a policy statement on how to handle errata.
    o Cullen Jennings to develop suggestions for tool changes for errata processing.
    o Dan Romascanu to send mail to nmrg/irtf proposing two options to move
    forward: 1. Last Call their document for the specific question according
    to the current RFC 3688 text, or 2. Defining a urn:irtf... space for the
    IRTF to manage.

    NEW:

    NONE

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-ecrit-dhc-lost-discovery-02.txt - 1 of 3
    A Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) based Location-to-Service
    Translation Protocol (LoST) Discovery Procedure (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Jari Arkko and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-07.txt - 2 of 3
    LoST: A Location-to-Service Translation Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (03/06/2008) by Cullen Jennings.

    o draft-ietf-hokey-erx-11.txt - 3 of 3
    EAP Extensions for EAP Re-authentication Protocol (ERP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Tim Polk

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Jari Arkko and Sam Hartman.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-mip4-mobike-connectivity-03.txt - 1 of 2
    Secure Connectivity and Mobility using Mobile IPv4 and MOBIKE (BCP)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-mip4-vpn-problem-solution-04.txt - 2 of 2
    Mobile IPv4 Traversal Across IPsec-based VPN Gateways (BCP)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Tim Polk.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-klensin-net-utf8-09.txt - 1 of 3
    Unicode Format for Network Interchange (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Chris Newman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
    individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-harrington-text-mib-doc-template-04.txt - 2 of 3
    A Template for Documents Containing a MIB Module (BCP)
    Token: Dan Romascanu

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (03/06/2008) by
    Cullen Jennings.

    o draft-melnikov-imap-search-res-07.txt - 3 of 3
    IMAP extension for referencing the last SEARCH result (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Chris Newman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
    individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
    RFC Editor Note prepared by Chris Newman.

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-cheshire-ipv4-acd-06.txt - 1 of 1
    IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document was removed from the IESG Teleconference agenda by
    Mark Townsley. The document was approved by the IESG before the
    teleconference began.

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-speermint-consolidated-presence-im-usecases-04.txt - 1 of 4
    Presence & Instant Messaging Peering Use Cases (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor
    Note prepared by Jon Peterson.

    o draft-ietf-hokey-reauth-ps-08.txt - 2 of 4
    Handover Key Management and Re-authentication Problem Statement (Informational)
    Token: Tim Polk

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Jari Arkko and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-ecrit-mapping-arch-03.txt - 3 of 4
    Location-to-URL Mapping Architecture and Framework (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley and Cullen Jennings.*

    o draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e-06.txt - 4 of 4
    Mobile IPv6 Fast Handovers over IEEE 802.16e Networks (Informational)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Tim Polk.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-brenner-dime-peem-01.txt - 1 of 1
    Diameter Policy Processing Application (Informational)
    Token: Dan Romascanu

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
    individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
    RFC Editor Note prepared by Dan Romascanu.

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock (tictoc) - 1 of 2
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
    the next IESG Teleconference (03/06/2008).

    o Internationalized Domain Name (idn) - 2 of 2
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate
    message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (03/06/2008).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. IAB News We Can Use
    6. Management Issues
    6.1 Enforcement of IDnits for document submission (Chris Newman)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.2 IESG Statement on RFC3406 and URN Namespaces Registry Review (Lisa Dusseault)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.3 IESG Statement on Registration Requests for URIs Containing
    Telephone Numbers (Lisa Dusseault)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.4 IESG Statement on RFC3688 XML Registry Process (Lisa Dusseault)

    The management issue was discussed. Lisa Dusseault will follow up
    on the different registries involved in this issue.

    6.5 RFC Errata (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.6 draft-ietf-smime-symkeydist-10.txt (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed.
    This document has been in the RFC Editor queue since February
    2003. It has been waiting on a normative dependency on
    draft-ietf-pkix-2797-bis. That document is finally close to
    publication -- just two more IESG DISCUSS positions to resolve. Some
    things have changed in the five years that this document has been
    waiting, so the author just posted an update to align the two
    documents. Considering the time that has passed, the changes are
    very few. Please accept this update, and treat these changes similar
    to Auth48 changes. The IESG has reviewed them, and they do not
    require further review.

    6.7 IESG Statistics Situation (Jari Arkko)

    The management issue was discussed.

    7. Working Group News We Can Use

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    * Please see the ID Tracker
    (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
    on documents that are under discussion by the IESG