Minutes interim-2007-iesg-22 2007-12-20 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the December 20, 2007 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
    ---------------------------------
    Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
    Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
    Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
    Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
    Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
    Spencer Dawkins (Huawei (USA)) / Scribe
    Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
    Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
    Sam Hartman (MIT) / Security Area
    Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
    Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
    Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
    Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
    Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
    Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
    Amy Vezza (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Dave Ward (IEng) / Routing Area
    Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

    REGRETS
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    Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
    Nora Duhig (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
    Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
    Barbara Fuller (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
    Dinara Suleymanova (NSS) / IETF Secretariat

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the November 29, 2007 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
    archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved since the November 29, 2007 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-crisp-iris-dchk-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-dnsext-nsec3-13.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-mip6-ha-switch-06.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-ietf-hip-base-10.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-hip-esp-06.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-hip-mm-05.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-hip-registration-02.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-hip-rvs-05.txt (Experimental)
    o draft-ietf-manet-jitter-04.txt (Informational)
    o draft-malis-sonet-ces-mpls-09.txt (Historic)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Chris Newman to draft an IESG recommendation regarding working
    group registration ownership.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Lisa Dusseault to find an author to update RFC 3406.
    o Jari Arkko to write an explaination of IESG policy of when ADs can
    request documents be considered by the IESG before the Last Call has ended.
    o Cullen Jennings to get a response from the AVT WG to help solve an IANA
    Registration issue for wave-avi-codec-registry [IANA # 97962] o Sam Hartman
    to write a draft explanation of informational balloting.

    NEW:

    NONE

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o Three-document ballot: - 1 of 8
    - draft-ietf-pkix-2797-bis-06.txt
    Certificate Management Messages over CMS (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-pkix-cmc-compl-05.txt
    Certificate Managmement Messages over CMS (CMC): Complience Requirements
    (Proposed Standard) - draft-ietf-pkix-cmc-trans-07.txt Certificate
    Management over CMS (CMC): Transport Protocols (Proposed Standard) Token:
    Tim Polk

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Lars Eggert and Sam Hartman.*

    o draft-ietf-shim6-hba-04.txt - 2 of 8
    Hash Based Addresses (HBA) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Dan Romascanu and David Ward.*

    o draft-ietf-shim6-failure-detection-09.txt - 3 of 8
    Failure Detection and Locator Pair Exploration Protocol for IPv6
    Multihoming (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
    was deferred to the next teleconference (01/10/2008) by Russ Housley.

    o draft-ietf-shim6-proto-09.txt - 4 of 8
    Shim6: Level 3 Multihoming Shim Protocol for IPv6 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (01/10/2008)
    by Jari Arkko.

    o draft-ietf-dnsext-2929bis-06.txt - 5 of 8
    Domain Name System (DNS) IANA Considerations (BCP)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-sieve-notify-11.txt - 6 of 8
    SIEVE Email Filtering: Extension for Notifications (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Cullen Jennings.*

    o draft-ietf-sieve-notify-xmpp-07.txt - 7 of 8
    Sieve Notification Mechanism: xmpp (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Chris Newman.*

    o draft-ietf-sip-consent-framework-03.txt - 8 of 8
    A Framework for Consent-based Communications in the Session Initiation
    Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Cullen Jennings

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (01/10/2008)
    by Sam Hartman.

    2.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-cheshire-ipv4-acd-05.txt - 1 of 1
    IPv4 Address Conflict Detection (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Dan Romascanu.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-sipping-toip-08.txt - 1 of 8
    Framework for real-time text over IP using the Session Initiation
    Protocol (SIP) (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko, Russ Housley, and
    Cullen Jennings.*

    o draft-ietf-16ng-ps-goals-03.txt - 2 of 8
    IP over 802.16 Problem Statement and Goals (Informational)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

    o draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-mcast-reqts-05.txt - 3 of 8
    Requirements for Multicast Support in Virtual Private LAN Services
    (Informational) Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Ron Bonica, Sam Hartman, Russ
    Housley, and Tim Polk.*

    o draft-ietf-mipshop-mis-ps-05.txt - 4 of 8
    Mobility Services Transport: Problem Statement (Informational)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send a working group submission Document Action Announcement
    that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Jari Arkko.

    o draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-fmwk-04.txt - 5 of 8
    Framework for MPLS-TE to GMPLS migration (Informational)
    Token: Ross Callon

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Tim Polk.*

    o draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-03.txt - 6 of 8
    Interworking Requirements to Support operation of MPLS-TE over GMPLS
    Networks (Informational) Token: Ross Callon

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Ron Bonica.*

    o draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-bridge-interop-02.txt - 7 of 8
    VPLS Interoperability with CE Bridges (Informational)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Sam Hartman, Russ Housley, and
    Tim Polk.*

    o draft-ietf-l2vpn-oam-req-frmk-09.txt - 8 of 8
    L2VPN OAM Requirements and Framework (Informational)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Ron Bonica, Russ Housley, Tim
    Polk, and Dan Romascanu.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-creed-ogc-urn-03.txt - 1 of 3
    A Uniform Resource Name (URN) namespace for the Open Geospatial Consortium
    (OGC) (Informational) Token: Lisa Dusseault

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Cullen Jennings.*

    o draft-korhonen-mip6-service-05.txt - 2 of 3
    Service Selection for Mobile IPv6 (Informational)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send an individual submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-sjdcox-cgi-urn-00.txt - 3 of 3
    A URN namespace for the Commission for the Management and
    Application of Geoscience Information (CGI) (Informational)
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat
    will send an individual submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-goodwin-iso-urn-03.txt - 1 of 1
    A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for the International
    Organization for Standardization (ISO) (Informational)
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send an individual submission Document Action Announcement
    that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Lisa Dusseault.

    3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of Clock (tictoc) - 1 of 1
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for
    external review at this time. The Secretariat will wait
    for instructions from Mark Townsley.

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. IAB News We Can Use

    6. Management Issues
    6.1 Executive Session for Appeal (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed in an executive session
    of the IESG.

    6.2 Scribe Recruiting from Vancouver meeting (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed.

    6.3 Approval of the IESG Policy on Autoresponse Messages
    Sent to IETF Mailing Lists (Chris Newman)

    The management issue was not discussed. Chris Newman
    requested this management issue be included on the agenda
    for the next IESG Teleconference (01/10/2008).

    6.4 Do we need any response to discussion on the 30-60 minute
    IPv6 experiment (Cullen Jennings)

    The management issue was discussed in an executive session
    of the IESG.

    6.5 Lifting DNPs (Mark Townsley)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the
    "no problem" message to the RFC Editor for
    draft-templin-rfc4214bis-04 that includes a note the
    RFC Editor.

    6.6 Instructions to IANA regarding GSS Service Industry Name (Sam Hartman)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved
    requesting IANA to restrict characters that can be used
    in the GSS Service Industry Name.

    7. Working Group News We Can Use

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