Minutes interim-2005-iesg-23 2005-12-15 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the December 15, 2005 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Brian Carpenter / IBM
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN
    Leslie Daigle / IAB
    Spencer Dawkins /
    Marshall Eubanks / MultiCast
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Sam Hartman / MIT
    Scott Hollenbeck / Verisign
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Shinkuro, Inc.
    Dave Meyer / Cisco/University of Oregon (IAB Liaison)
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / RFC Editor
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Mark Townsley / Cisco
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Ray Pelletier / IASA
    Barbara Roseman / ICANN (IANA)

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the December 1, 2005 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
    archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved since the December 1, 2005 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    NONE

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-krovetz-umac-07.txt (Informational)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    NONE

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Brian Carpenter to follow up on the discussion of the proposal
    to announce Internet-Drafts when they become WG items for re-review.

    NEW:

    o David Kessens to prepare a response to the Dean Anderson PR action.

    1.4 Review of Projects

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-kink-kink-11.txt - 1 of 9
    Kerberized Internet Negotiation of Keys (KINK) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Sam Hartman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Sam Hartman. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-pwe3-satop-03.txt - 2 of 9
    Structure-Agnostic TDM over Packet (SAToP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Brian Carpenter, Russ Housley, and Allison Mankin.*

    o draft-ietf-msec-bootstrapping-tesla-02.txt - 3 of 9
    Bootstrapping TESLA (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Brian Carpenter.*

    o draft-ietf-radext-digest-auth-06.txt - 4 of 9
    RADIUS Extension for Digest Authentication (Proposed Standard)
    Token: David Kessens

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Sam Hartman, Scott Hollenbeck, Russ Housley, Jon Peterson,
    and Mark Townsley.*

    o draft-ietf-enum-voice-01.txt - 5 of 9
    IANA Registration for Enumservice Voice (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-avt-uncomp-video-ext-01.txt - 6 of 9
    RTP Payload Format for Uncompressed Video: Additional Colour Sampling Modes
    (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-simple-presence-data-model-06.txt - 7 of 9
    A Data Model for Presence (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Scott Hollenbeck and Russ Housley.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 8 of 9
    - draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-online-signing-00.txt
    Minimally Covering NSEC Records and DNSSEC On-line Signing (Proposed
    Standard) - draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-name-p-s-01.txt Derivation of DNS Name
    Predecessor and Successor (Experimental) Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-vmr-wb-extension-02.txt - 9 of 9
    Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Payload Format for the Variable-Rate
    Multimode Wideband (VMR-WB) Extension Audio Codec (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-12.txt - 1 of 3
    Detecting MPLS Data Plane Failures (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie on behalf of IANA, Sam Hartman, and Margaret
    Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-pwe3-ethernet-encap-11.txt - 2 of 3
    Encapsulation Methods for Transport of Ethernet Over MPLS Networks
    (Proposed Standard) Token: Mark Townsley

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor
    Note prepared by Mark Townsley.

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-privacy-addrs-v2-04.txt - 3 of 3
    Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 (Draft
    Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bill Fenner, Ted Hardie, Russ Housley, and Bert Wijnen.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-harris-ssh-rsa-kex-05.txt - 1 of 1
    Rivest-Shamir-Adleman (RSA) key exchange for the Secure Shell (SSH)
    Transport Layer Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Sam Hartman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-v6ops-onlinkassumption-03.txt - 1 of 7
    IPv6 Neighbor Discovery On-Link Assumption Considered Harmful
    (Informational) Token: David Kessens

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by David Kessens. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-ietf-ieprep-domain-frame-06.txt - 2 of 7
    A Framework for Supporting Emergency Telecommunications Services (ETS)
    Within a Single Administrative Domain (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie, Russ Housley, Margaret Wasserman, and Bert
    Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-newtrk-decruft-experiment-02.txt - 3 of 7
    Getting rid of the cruft: an experiment to identify obsolete standards
    document (Informational) Token: Brian Carpenter

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley, Mark Townsley and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-webdav-redirectref-protocol-13.txt - 4 of 7
    Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) Redirect Reference
    Resources (Experimental) Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor
    Note that was prepared by Ted Hardie.

    o draft-ietf-v6ops-vlan-usage-00.txt - 5 of 7
    Use of VLANs for IPv4-IPv6 Coexistence in Enterprise Networks
    (Informational) Token: David Kessens

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by David Kessens. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o Two-document ballot: - 6 of 7
    - draft-ietf-rohc-sigcomp-user-guide-04.txt
    SigComp Users' Guide (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-rohc-sigcomp-torture-tests-03.txt
    SigComp Torture Tests (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The documents were approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC
    Editor Note that was prepared by Allison Mankin.

    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpimpguide-16.txt - 7 of 7
    Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) Specification Errata and Issues
    (Informational) Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-dnsop-ipv6-dns-issues-12.txt - 1 of 2
    Operational Considerations and Issues with IPv6 DNS (Informational)
    Token: David Kessens

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Margaret Wasserman.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 2 of 2
    - draft-ietf-mpls-oam-requirements-06.txt
    OAM Requirements for MPLS Networks (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-mpls-oam-frmwk-04.txt
    A Framework for MPLS Operations and Management (OAM) (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The documents were removed from the IESG Teleconference agenda by the AD.
    The documents will return at the next IESG Teleconference (01/05/2005).

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-andrews-dlv-dns-rr-00.txt - 1 of 1
    The DNSSEC Lookaside Validation (DLV) DNS Resource Record (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley and Allison Mankin.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-jaganathan-kerberos-http-01.txt - 1 of 2
    Kerberos based HTTP Authentication in Windows (Informational)
    Token: Scott Hollenbeck

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing these documents. The
    Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor
    that includes the standard IESG Note.

    o draft-zenner-rabbit-02.txt - 2 of 2
    A Description of the Rabbit Stream Cipher Algorithm (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing these documents. The
    Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor
    that includes the standard IESG Note.

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    o draft-manning-opcode-discover-02.txt - 1 of 1
    DISCOVER: Supporting Multicast DNS Queries (Experimental)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this
    document. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message that
    includes additional text prepared by Margaret Wasserman to the RFC Editor,
    with a copy to the IETF-Announce list.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o Domain Keys Identified Mail (dkim) - 1 of 4
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
    the next IESG Teleconference (01/05/2005).

    o EAP Method Update (emu) - 2 of 4
    Token: Sam Hartman

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
    the next IESG Teleconference (01/05/2005).

    o Diameter Maintanence and Extentions (dime) - 3 of 4
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to the
    text from Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement,
    with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place
    the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (01/05/2005).

    o Network-based Localized Mobility Management (netlmm) - 4 of 4
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
    the next IESG Teleconference (01/05/2005).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o Pseudo Wire Emulation Edge to Edge (pwe3) - 1 of 3
    Token: Mark Townsley

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter, minus
    the goals and milestones. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter
    announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat
    will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference
    (01/05/2005).

    o Network Configuration (netconf) - 2 of 3
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    o Extended Incident Handling (inch) - 3 of 3
    Token: Sam Hartman

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    o Mobility for IPv4 (mip4) - 1 of 1
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement,
    to include additional text to be provided by Margaret Wasserman.

    5. IAB News We Can Use
    6. Management Issues
    6.1 Timeout on AUTH48 (Brian Carpenter)

    This management issue was tabled to the next teleconference (01/05/2005).

    6.2 Decision on Efficiency Retreat (Brian Carpenter)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to have the efficiency
    retreat January 30 and 31, 2006 in San Francisco, CA, USA.

    6.3 Expedited Handling Request (Allison Mankin)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved expedited handling for
    draft-ietf-avt-rtp-amrwbplus-07.txt,
    draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping-06.txt, and draft-ietf-enum-msg-05.txt.

    6.4 Dean Anderson PR action (David Kessens)

    Leslie Daigle and Dave Meyer left the teleconference before the discussion
    on this issue began. The management issue was discussed. Action item: David
    Kessens will prepare a response to the Dean Anderson PR action.

    6.5 Noting appeal responses (Brian Carpenter)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG has responded to the appeals by
    Julian Mehnle and William Leibzon concerning the Sender ID drafts.

    6.6 Possible Message to IETF-Announce (Ted Hardie)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to send the message
    regarding using new URI registration procedures to the IETF-Announce list.

    7. Working Group News We Can Use

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