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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the July 22, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
    ------------
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic

    MINUTES
    ---------------

    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the July 8, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The
    Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the July 8, 2004 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-zeroconf-ipv4-linklocal-17.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-l2tpext-l2tp-base-14.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-crisp-iris-dreg-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-crisp-iris-core-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-crisp-iris-beep-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-daigle-snaptr-01.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-leinen-ipfix-eval-contrib-03.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-friend-tls-lzs-compression-04.txt (Informational RFC)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    NONE

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o David Kessens, Steve Bellovin, and Alex Zinin to discuss a charter
    for a new Operations and Management Area working group for OPSEC.
    o Bill Fenner to determine with WG chairs whether a liaison with OIF is
    desirable, and will inform the IAB of the decision.
    o Applications ADs to evaluate the situation with regards to MIME type
    review, and see how we can ensure the review turnaround times specified
    in the MIME registration procedures.
    o Bert Wijnen to finalize text for the alternative procedure for updating
    MIB modules and put it on www.ops.ietf.org Web site.
    o Bert Wijnen to provide text for the alternative procedure for updating
    MIB modules to the Secretariat, so the Secretariat can make sure
    Internet-Drafts follow this procedure.
    o The Secretariat to save the alternative procedure for updating MIB modules
    for their use.
    o Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten to compose a message for the IESG and
    IAB related to 3GPP's Release 6 publication deadline and expedited documents.
    o Harald Alvestrand to clarify what actions are needed to enforce the new
    boilerplate. August 19, 2004 is the proposed deadline for accepting I-Ds
    with old boilerplates. All I-Ds submitted after this date require the use
    of the new boilerplate.
    o Allison Mankin will encourage Dave Meyer to go forward with his I-D on
    IETF minutes, and will suggest some IESG points for it.

    NEW:

    NONE

    1.4 Review of Projects

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o Eight-document ballot: - 1 of 3
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-implementation-01.txt
    BGP 4 Implementation Report (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-24.txt
    A Border Gateway Protocol 4 (BGP-4) (Draft Standard)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-mib-14.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for the Fourth Version of Border Gateway
    Protocol (BGP-4) (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-vuln-00.txt
    BGP Security Vulnerabilities Analysis (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-analysis-05.txt
    BGP-4 Protocol Analysis (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp4-experience-protocol-04.txt
    Experience with the BGP-4 Protocol (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-idr-bgp-mibagent-survey-01.txt
    BGP MIB V1 implementation survey (Informational)
    - draft-iesg-tcpmd5app-00.txt
    Standards Maturity Variance Regarding the TCP MD5 Signature Option
    (RFC 2385) and the BGP-4 Specification (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The documents remain under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin, Russ Housley, Bert Wijnen, and Thomas
    Narten for IANA.*

    o draft-ietf-mmusic-anat-01.txt - 2 of 3
    The Alternative Network Address Types Semantics for the Session Description
    Protocol Grouping Framework (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie, Thomas Narten, and Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-sip-anat-usage-00.txt - 3 of 3
    Usage of the Session Description Protocol (SDP) Alternative Network
    Address Types (ANAT) Semantics in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Allison Mankin.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-pkix-pi-10.txt - 1 of 3
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Permanent Identifier
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 2 of 3
    - draft-ietf-sipping-early-media-02.txt
    Early Media and Ringing Tone Generation in the Session Initiation
    Protocol (SIP) (Informational)
    - draft-ietf-sipping-early-disposition-03.txt
    The Early Session Disposition Type for the Session Initiation
    Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The documents were approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-opes-http-02.txt - 3 of 3
    HTTP adaptation with OPES (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Allison Mankin and Alex Zinin.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-wasserman-rfc2418-ml-update-01.txt - 1 of 3
    Update to RFC 2418 Regarding the Management of IETF Mailing Lists (BCP)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by Harald Alvestrand. The Secretariat will send an individual
    submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    o draft-hansen-lemonade-msgctxt-videomsg-01.txt - 2 of 3
    Video Message Message Context (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    o draft-alvestrand-ietf-mission-02.txt - 3 of 3
    A Mission Statement for the IETF (BCP)
    Token: David Kessens

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by David Kessens. The Secretariat will send an individual
    submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-v6ops-renumbering-procedure-01.txt - 1 of 1
    Procedures for Renumbering an IPv6 Network without a Flag Day (Informational)
    Token: David Kessens

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-msec-gkmarch-08.txt - 1 of 1
    MSEC Group Key Management Architecture (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Allison Mankin.*

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-torvinen-http-digest-aka-v2-01.txt - 1 of 2
    Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) Digest Authentication Using
    Authentication and Key Agreement (AKA) Version-2 (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-hardie-alt-consensus-02.txt - 2 of 2
    Alternative Decision Making Processes for Consensus-blocked Decisions
    in the IETF (Experimental)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
    individual submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-richardson-ipsec-opportunistic-16.txt - 1 of 1
    Opportunistic Encryption using The Internet Key Exchange (IKE)
    (Informational)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Steve Bellovin.

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks (l2vpn) - 1 of 2
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement

    o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 EDU Team Charter (Harald Alvestrand)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the charter
    for the EDU Team.

    7.2 Handling of delayed WG Actions (Harald Alvestrand)

    The management issue was discussed.

    7.3 Discussion on the review of the Red/Blue Split Experiment
    (Allison Mankin)

    The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to add the
    red/blue team split experiment to the agenda for the Saturday
    meeting in San Diego.

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    (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
    on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.