Minutes interim-2004-iesg-05 2004-03-18 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the March 18, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the February 19, 2004 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the February 19, 2004 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-nomcom-rfc2727bis-09.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-pkix-x509-ipaddr-as-extn-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-iptel-trip-mib-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-pkix-wlan-extns-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ipv6-rfc2096-update-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-pkix-sonof3039-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-tsvwg-prsctp-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ospf-2547-dnbit-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-pppext-vendor-protocol-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-legg-ldap-cmr-module-01.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-krb-wg-crypto-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-pkix-rfc2510bis-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-18.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-ietf-isis-gmpls-extensions-19.txt (Informational RFC)
    o draft-eastlake-rfc2777bis-selection-04.txt (Informational RFC)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send
    to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision
    on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor.
    o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC
    Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions.
    o Steve Bellovin to prepare input for a discussion of the relation
    between the IESG and the RFC Editor at the Seoul IETF Meeting.
    o Thomas Narten to suggest an updated charter for the PPPEXT working
    Group that describes it as a standard maintenance group.
    o Bert Wijnen, Thomas Narten, and David Kessens to work with David
    Meyer to clarify details on a particular IANA request and see if
    there are any other appropriate action items.
    o Bill Fenner to talk to Scott Bradner to inquire about ITU's intentions
    or plans for studying BGP filtering.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings
    using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting
    experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
    o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations.
    o Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a
    description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing
    list.
    o Ted Hardie to write up a procedure based on the W3C's communication
    to the IESG regarding MIME Part 4 update.
    o Harald Alvestrand to get text for the charter of NEWTRK about the
    addition of discussion of document labeling to its work items.

    NEW:

    o David Kessens, Steve Bellovin, and Alex Zinin to discuss a charter
    for a new Operations and Management Area working group for OPSEC

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-spirits-protocol-07.txt - 1 of 4
    The SPIRITS (Services in PSTN requesting Internet services) Protocol
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bill Fenner, Scott Hollenbeck, and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-imapext-sort-14.txt - 2 of 4
    INTERNET MESSAGE ACCESS PROTOCOL - SORT AND THREAD EXTENSION (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Scott Hollenbeck

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bill Fenner, Ted Hardie, and Allison Mankin.*

    o draft-ietf-nemo-basic-support-02.txt - 3 of 4
    Nemo Basic Support Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Steve Bellovin, Thomas
    Narten, and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-deprecate-site-local-02.txt - 4 of 4
    Deprecating Site Local Addresses (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten and Alex Zinin.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-weltman-ldapv3-proxy-12.txt - 1 of 1
    LDAP Proxied Authentication Control (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-zeilenga-ldap-authzid-08.txt - 1 of 2
    LDAP 'Who am I?' Operation (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-mealling-uuid-urn-03.txt - 2 of 2
    A UUID URN Namespace (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bill Fenner, Scott Hollenbeck, Russ
    Housley, Thomas Narten, and Jon Peterson.*

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-pkix-pkixrep-02.txt - 1 of 2
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Repository Locator Service (Experimental)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-mip4-vpn-problem-statement-02.txt - 2 of 2
    Problem Statement: Mobile IPv4 Traversal of VPN Gateways (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Steve Bellovin,
    Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-speechsc-reqts-05.txt - 1 of 2
    Requirements for Distributed Control of ASR, SI/SV and TTS
    Resources (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    o draft-ietf-dnsext-dns-threats-06.txt - 2 of 2
    Threat Analysis Of The Domain Name System (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    NONE

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-zhao-slp-remote-da-discovery-05.txt - 1 of 1
    Finding Remote Directory Agents and Service Agents in the Service
    Location Protocol via DNS SRV (Experimental)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-gurbani-sin-02.txt - 1 of 1
    Interworking SIP and Intelligent Network (IN) Applications (Informational)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin.

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 1
    Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
    The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
    Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Thomas Narten.

    3.3.3 For Action
    o draft-shanmugham-mrcp-05.txt - 1 of 1
    A Media Resource Control Protocol Developed by Cisco, Nuance,
    and Speechworks. (Informational)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document was assigned to Jon Peterson.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o MTA Authorization Records in DNS (marid) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending
    additional text to be provided by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat
    will send a WG Review announcement, and a separate announcement
    to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the
    agenda for the next IESG teleconference (04/02/2004).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o Domain Name System Operations (dnsop) - 1 of 4
    Token: David Kessens

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    o Global Routing Operations (grow) - 2 of 4
    Token: David Kessens

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group
    pending additional text to be prepared by David Kessens. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    o Site Multihoming in IPv6 (multi6) - 3 of 4
    Token: David Kessens

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group
    pending additional text to be prepared by David Kessens. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    o Routing Protocol Security Requirements (rpsec) - 4 of 4
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 What to do with OPSEC (Steve Bellovin)

    This management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to move
    toward a working group.
    Action item: David Kessens, Steve Bellovin, and Alex Zinin to
    discuss a charter for a new Operations and Management Area working
    group for OPSEC.

    7.2 PROTO Team Pilots (Allison Mankin & Margaret Wasserman)

    This management issue was discussed. There was general agreement
    within the IESG that the PROTO Team should proceed with the pilots.
    ADs who are interested in participating in the pilots and have
    applicable WGs will send mail to Allison and Margaret to volunteer.

    7.3 IESG liaison to IAB (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed. Bert Wijnen will continue to
    be the liaison to the IAB for the IESG.

    7.4 Brief review of IESG retreat agenda (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed.

    7.5 Cablelabs Liaison (Thomas Narten)

    This management issue was discussed.

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