Minutes interim-2004-iesg-03 2004-02-05 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the February 5, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    David Kessens / Nokia
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the January 22, 2004 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the January 22, 2004 IESG
    Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-freed-mime-p4-04.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-xmpp-core-22.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ipsec-ciph-aes-ccm-05.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    NONE

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o The Secretariat will post its current procedures for processing IPR
    disclosures on the internal IESG Web page.
    o Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the proposed
    revision of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on IETF
    mailing lists.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings
    using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting
    experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
    o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations.
    o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send
    to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision
    on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor.
    o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC
    Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions.
    o Bert Wijnen to work with Leslie Daigle and Scott Bradner on a
    description of the purpose of and procedures for the new-work mailing
    list.

    NEW:

    o Steve Bellovin to prepare input for a discussion of the relation
    between the IESG and the RFC Editor at the Seoul IETF Meeting.
    o Ted Hardie to write up a procedure based on the W3C's communication
    to the IESG regarding MIME Part 4 update.
    o Thomas Narten to suggest an updated charter for the PPPEXT working
    Group that describes it as a standard maintenance group.
    o Bert Wijnen, Thomas Narten, and David Kessens to work with David
    Meyer to clarify details on a particular IANA request and see if
    there are any other appropriate action items.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-secsh-dh-group-exchange-04.txt - 1 of 3
    Diffie-Hellman Group Exchange for the SSH Transport Layer Protocol
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-ospf-2547-dnbit-03.txt - 2 of 3
    Using an LSA Options Bit to Prevent Looping in BGP/MPLS IP VPNs
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-smime-pss-03.txt - 3 of 3
    Use of the PSS Signature Algorithm in CMS (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was approved by the IESG pending a possible RFC Editor Note
    to be prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note
    (if applicable).

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-xmpp-im-21.txt - 1 of 1
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Instant Messaging
    and Presence (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-mealling-uuid-urn-02.txt - 1 of 1
    A UUID URN Namespace (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Bill Fenner, Ned Freed,
    Russ Housley, Thomas Narten, and Jon Peterson.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item
    o draft-klyne-msghdr-registry-07.txt - 1 of 2
    Registration procedures for message header fields (BCP)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Jon Peterson.*

    o draft-jones-opsec-03.txt - 2 of 2
    Operational Security Requirements for IP Network Infrastructure (BCP)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Ted Hardie, Russ
    Housley, David Kessens, Allison Mankin, Bert Wijnen, and Alex Zinin.*

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item
    o draft-ietf-midcom-semantics-07.txt - 1 of 9
    MIDCOM Protocol Semantics (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Harald Alvestand and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-isis-gmpls-extensions-19.txt - 2 of 9
    IS-IS Extensions in Support of Generalized MPLS (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-rddp-problem-statement-03.txt - 3 of 9
    RDMA over IP Problem Statement (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand.*

    o draft-ietf-rddp-arch-04.txt - 4 of 9
    The Architecture of Direct Data Placement (DDP)And Remote Direct
    Memory Access (RDMA)On Internet Protocols (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-opes-iab-04.txt - 5 of 9
    OPES Treatment of IAB Considerations (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/19/2004) by
    Ted Hardie.

    o draft-ietf-rmt-flute-07.txt - 6 of 9
    FLUTE - File Delivery over Unidirectional Transport (Experimental)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-opes-end-comm-06.txt - 7 of 9
    OPES entities and end points communication (Informational)
    Token: Ned Freed

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (02/19/2004) by
    Steve Bellovin.

    o draft-ietf-isis-restart-05.txt - 8 of 9
    Restart signaling for IS-IS (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    o Two-document ballot: - 9 of 9
    - draft-ietf-avt-ilbc-codec-04.txt
    Internet Low Bit Rate Codec (Experimental)
    - draft-ietf-avt-rtp-ilbc-04.txt
    RTP Payload Format for iLBC Speech (Experimental)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    These documents remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-l3vpn-generic-reqts-02.txt - 1 of 4
    Generic Requirements for Provider Provisioned Virtual Private
    Networks (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    o draft-ietf-forces-framework-13.txt - 2 of 4
    Forwarding and Control Element Separation (ForCES) Framework
    (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    o draft-ietf-bgmp-spec-06.txt - 3 of 4
    Border Gateway Multicast Protocol (BGMP): Protocol Specification
    (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
    prepared by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    o draft-ietf-problem-issue-statement-05.txt - 4 of 4
    IETF Problem Statement (Informational)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement.

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-huston-ipv6-documentation-prefix-03.txt - 1 of 1
    IPv6 Address Prefix reserved for Documentation (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten on behalf of the IAB.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item
    o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 1
    Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    o New IETF Standards Track Discussion (newtrk) - 1 of 2
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/19/2004).

    o Link-Enhancing Transport Intermediary Communication (letic) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/19/2004).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    o Improved Cross-Area Review (icar) - 1 of 4
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
    the names of the working group chairs from Harald Alvestrand.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming (mobike) - 2 of 4
    Token: Steven Bellovin

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
    the names of the working group chairs from Steve Bellovin. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Detecting Network Attachment (dna) - 3 of 4
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
    the name of the primary AD. The Secretariat will send a WG Action
    announcement.

    o TCP Maintenance and Minor Extensions (tcpm) - 4 of 4
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
    information about the working group email list from Jon Peterson.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o Site Multihoming in IPv6 (multi6) - 1 of 1
    Token: David Kessens

    The IESG decided not to move forward with the rechartering of this
    working group at this time. The Secretariat will take no action
    until directed to do so by the IESG.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 the IESG's -- and IETF's -- role in RFC Editor documents (Steve Bellovin)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Steve Bellovin to prepare input for a discussion of
    the relation between the IESG and the RFC Editor at the Seoul IETF
    Meeting.

    7.2 W3C use of procedures outlined in MIME Part 4 update. (Ted Hardie)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Ted Hardie to write up a procedure based on the W3C's
    communication to the IESG regarding MIME Part 4 update.

    7.3 Review of working groups that have milestones in 1999 (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Thomas Narten to suggest an updated charter for the PPPEXT
    working Group that describes it as a standard maintenance group.

    7.4 Non-IESG PROTO Team members to sit in on the next IESG
    Teleconference Call (Allison Mankin)

    This management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to tentatively invite
    the three non-IESG PROTO Team members to sit in on the next IESG
    Teleconference (02/19/2004).

    7.5 IANA Expert Dave Meyer and Liability Insurance (Bill Fenner)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Bert Wijnen, Thomas Narten, and David Kessens to work with
    David Meyer to clarify details on a particular IANA request and see
    if there are any other appropriate action items.

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