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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the January 8, 2004 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison)
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA)
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
    ------------

    Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA)

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the December 18, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved Since the December 18, 2003 IESG Teleconference
    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-pilc-link-design-15.txt (BCP)
    o draft-ietf-pkix-proxy-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-msec-mikey-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-wdm-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ipv6-flow-label-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-sipping-mwi-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-dnsext-keyrr-key-signing-flag-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-test-sonet-sdh-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lci-option-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-savola-bcp38-multihoming-update-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-sip-callee-caps-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
    o draft-ietf-rmonmib-rmon-oid-assignments-01.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-ietf-sipping-aaa-req-04.txt (Informational RFC)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o The Secretariat to send a reminder to the IESG that the
    submission deadline for items to be included in preliminary
    package for the January 8, 2004 IESG Teleconference is 10:00am
    ET on January 2, 2004. The Secretariat will send the preliminary
    package at 12:00noon ET, January 2, 2004.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings
    using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting
    experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue.
    o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations.

    NEW:

    o Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the proposed revision
    of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on IETF mailing lists.
    o Allison Mankin and Margaret Wasserman to draft announcement message
    for PROTO Team to be discussed by the IESG.
    o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send
    to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the
    decision on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC
    Editor.
    o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC
    Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-14.txt - 1 of 6
    Policy Based Management MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
    (01/22/2004) by Margaret Wasserman.

    o draft-ietf-tls-compression-06.txt - 2 of 6
    Transport Layer Security Protocol Compression Methods (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ned Freed and Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-17.txt - 3 of 6
    Alarm MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen on behalf of IANA.*

    o draft-ietf-krb-wg-crypto-06.txt - 4 of 6
    Encryption and Checksum Specifications for Kerberos 5 (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-ietf-sip-content-indirect-mech-03.txt - 5 of 6
    A Mechanism for Content Indirection in Session Initiation Protocol
    (SIP) Messages (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-dhc-relay-agent-ipsec-01.txt - 6 of 6
    Authentication of DHCP Relay Agent Options Using IPsec (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Russ Housley, Allison
    Mankin, and Bert Wijnen.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-webdav-acl-13.txt - 1 of 3
    WebDAV Access Control Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The -12 version of the document was approved at the 10/30/2003
    IESG Teleconference. The authors revised the document to version
    -13 while in the RFC Editor Queue. The IESG requests that the
    RFC Editor process the -13 version of this document. The
    Secretariat will send a formal request to the RFC Editor. Ted
    Hardie will draft the text for the message.

    o draft-ietf-xmpp-core-21.txt - 2 of 3
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Core (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.*

    o draft-ietf-xmpp-im-20.txt - 3 of 3
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Instant Messaging
    and Presence (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    o draft-kompella-rsvp-change-01.txt - 1 of 2
    Procedures for Modifying RSVP (BCP)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o draft-jones-avt-audio-t38-03.txt - 2 of 2
    Real-Time Facsimile (T.38) - audio/t38 MIME Sub-type Registration
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-ldapext-matchedval-07.txt - 1 of 1
    Returning Matched Values with LDAPv3 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ned Freed.*

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-l2vpn-l2-framework-03.txt - 1 of 3
    L2VPN Framework (Informational RFC)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-webrc-04.txt - 2 of 3
    Wave and Equation Based Rate Control building block (Experimental
    RFC)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send
    a working group submission Document Action Announcement

    o draft-ietf-msec-arch-04.txt - 3 of 3
    The Multicast Security Architecture (Informational RFC)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-ipfix-reqs-13.txt - 1 of 2
    Requirements for IP Flow Information Export (Informational RFC)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-ipv6-node-requirements-07.txt - 2 of 2
    IPv6 Node Requirements (Informational RFC)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Russ Housley,
    Allison Mankin, and Bert Wijnen.*

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    o draft-hoehn-nsdl-urn-namespace-01.txt - 1 of 2
    A URN Namespace for NSDL (Informational RFC)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Ted Hardie on behalf of the IAB.*

    o draft-burger-sipping-netann-07.txt - 2 of 2
    Basic Network Media Services with SIP (Informational RFC)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ
    Housley.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    o draft-hayashi-igap-03.txt - 1 of 2
    Internet Group membership Authentication Protocol (IGAP)
    (Informational RFC)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
    (01/22/2004) by Russ Housley.

    o draft-claise-netflow-9-07.txt - 2 of 2
    Cisco Systems NetFlow Services Export Version 9 (Informational
    RFC)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.*

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-03.txt - 1 of 1
    Verizon Wireless Dynamic Mobile IP Key Update for cdma2000(R)
    Networks (Informational RFC)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Bert Wijnen.*

    3.3.3 To be assigned

    o draft-marshall-security-audit-08.txt
    Security Audit and Access Accountability Message XML Data
    Definitions for Healthcare Applications (Informational RFC)

    The document was assigned to Ned Freed.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    o Profiling Use of PKI in IPSEC (pki4ipsec) - 1 of 2
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004).

    o Routing Area Working Group (rtgwg) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review,
    pending revised text to be provided by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat
    will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org.
    The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the
    next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    o Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (capwap)
    - 1 of 1
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The charter for the new working group remains under discussion by the
    IESG. The Secretariat will place the charter for the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004) in the
    same category.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    o MBONE Deployment (mboned) - 1 of 1
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group, pending
    revised text to be provided by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send
    a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement to include additional text to be
    provided by Bert Wijnen.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 Extension of IETF protocols by other SDOs (Allison Mankin)

    This management issue was discussed. Allison Mankin and Thomas
    Narten will work on IETF vendor extensions draft.

    7.2 Guidance for spam-control on IETF mailing lists (Steve Bellovin)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the
    proposed revision of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on
    IETF mailing lists.

    7.3 the IETF and anti-spam (Steve Bellovin)

    This management issue was discussed.

    7.4 RFC Editor decision to publish draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp
    (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat
    will send to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave
    the decision on publishing this document to the RFC Editor.

    7.5 PROTO charter (Margaret Wasserman)

    This management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Allison Mankin and Margaret Wasserman to draft announcement
    message for PROTO Team to be discussed by the IESG.

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