Minutes interim-2003-iesg-19 2003-10-16 15:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the October 16, 2003 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Randy Bush / IIJ
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    REGRETS
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    Michelle Cotton / ICANN
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the October 2, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Jon Peterson to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs
    and send decision to IESG.
    o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim
    document review.
    o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorats
    and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed
    IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN
    working group.
    o Harald Alvestrand to discuss with Barbara Fuller the process of
    listing the scribes for IETF Meetings on WG charter Web pages.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when
    Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at
    a Lower Level.
    o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy
    about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings,
    and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.
    o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on
    applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system.

    NEW:

    o Secretariat to send the updated EDU Team charter to the IETF
    Announce list for IETF review.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o Two-document ballot: - 1 of 6
    - draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-routing-08.txt
    Routing Extensions in Support of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label
    Switching (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-ccamp-ospf-gmpls-extensions-11.txt
    OSPF Extensions in Support of Generalized Multi-Protocol Label
    Switching (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-vida-mld-v2-07.txt - 2 of 6
    Multicast Listener Discovery Version 2 (MLDv2) for IPv6 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Randy Bush.*

    o draft-ietf-msec-mikey-07.txt - 3 of 6
    MIKEY: Multimedia Internet KEYing (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was deferred to the next teleconference (10/30/03)
    by Jon Peterson.

    o draft-ietf-secsh-auth-kbdinteract-05.txt - 4 of 6
    Generic Message Exchange Authentication For SSH (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ned Freed, and Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ietf-mboned-msdp-deploy-03.txt - 5 of 6
    Multicast Source Discovery Protocol (MSDP) Deployment Scenarios (BCP)
    Token: Randy Bush

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.*

    o Two-document ballot: - 6 of 6
    - draft-ietf-adslmib-hc-tc-06.txt
    High Capacity Textual Conventions for MIB Modules Using Performance
    History Based on 15 Minute Intervals (Proposed Standard)
    - draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl-12.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for Very High Speed Digital Subscriber
    Lines (VDSL) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Margaret Wasserman.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-pkix-pi-07.txt - 1 of 1
    Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure Permanent Identifier
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Randy Bush, Ted Hardie,
    and Jon Peterson.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    o draft-blumenthal-aes-usm-07.txt - 1 of 3
    The AES Cipher Algorithm in the SNMP's User-based Security Model
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Steve Bellovin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Russ Housley.*

    o draft-rajeshkumar-mmusic-gpmd-03.txt - 2 of 3
    SDP attribute for qualifying Media Formats with Generic Parameters
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Randy Bush, Ned Freed and Ted Hardie.*

    o draft-ymbk-6to4-arpa-delegation-00.txt - 3 of 3
    Delegation of 2.0.0.2.ip6.arpa (BCP)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to
    resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-dpd-03.txt - 1 of 2
    A Traffic-Based Method of Detecting Dead IKE Peers (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-reqts-05.txt - 2 of 2
    IPsec-NAT Compatibility Requirements (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Russ Housley. The Secretariat will send a working
    group submission Document Action announcement that includes the
    RFC Editor Note.

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-ipo-framework-05.txt - 1 of 2
    IP over Optical Networks: A Framework (Informational)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document was removed from the agenda by Alex Zinin.

    o draft-ietf-dhc-unused-optioncodes-07.txt
    Unused DHCP Option Codes (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was removed from the agenda by Margaret Wasserman.
    The Secretariat will place the document on the agenda for the next
    IESG teleconference (10/30/03).

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    o draft-gill-gtsh-04.txt - 1 of 1
    The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document was removed from the agenda by Alex Zinin. The
    Secretariat will place the document on the agenda for the
    next IESG teleconference (10/30/03).

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    o draft-bless-diffserv-pdb-le-01.txt - 1 of 3
    A Lower Effort Per-Domain Behavior for Differentiated Services (Informational)
    Token: Jon Peterson

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this
    document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem"
    message to the RFC Editor.

    o draft-bless-diffserv-multicast-07.txt - 2 of 3
    IP Multicast in Differentiated Services Networks (Informational)
    Token: Bill Fenner

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this
    document. The Secretariat will send a "no problem" message
    that includes an RFC Editor note to be prepared by Bill Fenner.

    o draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp-02.txt - 3 of 3
    A Multicast Extension to MAPOS NSP (Node Switch Protocol) (Informational)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG recommends that this document not be published as an
    Informational RFC. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish"
    message to the RFC Editor that includes an explanation of the
    decision to be prepared by Thomas Narten.

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3.3 To Be Assigned
    o draft-aboulmagd-trtcm-inprofile-01.txt - 1 of 1

    The document was assigned to Jon Peterson.

    4. Working Group Action
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    o Credential and Provisioning (enroll) - 1 of 2
    Token: Russ Houlsey

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03).

    o IP over DVB (ipdvb) - 2 of 2
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (10/30/03).

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    o Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans) - 1 of 3
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o MIPv6 Signaling and Handoff Optimization (mipshop) - 2 of 3
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Internet and Management Support for Storage (imss) - 3 of 3
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    o Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 1 of 3
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement,
    to include additional text to be provided by Alex Zinin.

    o Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp) - 2 of 3
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement,
    to include additional text to be provided by Alex Zinin.

    o Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) - 3 of 3
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 EDU Team updated charter (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed.

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