Minutes interim-2003-iesg-18 2003-10-02 15:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the October 2, 2003 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Harald Alvestrand / Cisco
    Rob Austein / IAB Liaison
    Randy Bush / IIJ
    Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB)
    Bill Fenner / AT&T
    Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems
    Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat
    Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc.
    Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC
    Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent
    Thomas Narten / IBM
    Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc.
    Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat
    Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat
    Margaret Wasserman / Nokia
    Bert Wijnen / Lucent

    REGRETS
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    Steve Bellovin / AT&T
    Michelle Cotton / ICANN
    Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor)
    Alex Zinin / Alcatel

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the September 18, 2003 Teleconference were approved.
    The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Bill Fenner, Ted Hardie, and Thomas Narten to work out acceptable text
    to resolve ABNF and SRV issues.

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Jon Peterson to review draft-agrawal-sip-h323-interworking-reqs
    and send decision to IESG.
    o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how
    to get to Draft".
    o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship
    with IAB.
    o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option.
    o Randy Bush and Ned Freed to finish ID on Clarifying when
    Standards Track Documents may Refer Normatively to Documents at
    a Lower Level.
    o Alex Zinin to send proposal and justification for interim
    document review.
    o Alex Zinin to phrase a question to RTG and OPS Area Directorats
    and IAB on PPVPN issue. Alex to summarize the results as a proposed
    IESG consensus regarding the PPVPN issue to be given to the PPVPN
    working group.
    o Randy Bush and Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy
    about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings,
    and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting.

    NEW:

    o Ted Hardie to take responsibility for initiating a discussion on
    applications' expectations on the behaviour of the DNS system.
    o Harald Alvestrand to discuss with Barbara Fuller the process of
    listing the scribes for IETF Meetings on WG charter Web pages.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-disman-conditionmib-10.txt - 1 of 9
    Alarm Reporting Control MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a working group
    submission Protocol Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    o draft-ietf-rmonmib-apm-mib-11.txt - 2 of 9
    Application Performance Measurement MIB (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-rfc2402bis-05.txt - 3 of 9
    IP Authentication Header (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin, Jon Peterson, and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-esn-addendum-02.txt - 4 of 9
    Extended Sequence Number Addendum to IPsec DOI for ISAKMP (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-ipsec-esp-v3-06.txt - 5 of 9
    IP Encapsulating Security Payload (ESP) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin, Jon Peterson, and Bert Wijnen.*

    o draft-ietf-dnsext-keyrr-key-signing-flag-10.txt - 6 of 9
    KEY RR Secure Entry Point Flag (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.*

    o draft-ietf-ldup-lcup-06.txt - 7 of 9
    LDAP Client Update Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action announcement.

    o draft-ietf-nomcom-rfc2727bis-07.txt - 8 of 9
    IAB and IESG Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of
    the Nominating and Recall Committees (BCP)
    Token: Harald Alvestrand

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Thomas Narten and Margaret Wasserman.*

    o draft-ietf-dhc-suboptions-kdc-serveraddress-04.txt - 9 of 9
    KDC Server Address Sub-option (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action announcement that includes
    the RFC Editor Note.

    2.1.2 Returning Item

    o draft-ietf-ftpext-mlst-16.txt - 1 of 3
    Extensions to FTP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action announcement.

    o draft-ietf-dhc-isnsoption-10.txt - 2 of 3
    The IPv4 DHCP Options for the Internet Storage Name Service (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Steve Bellovin and Alex Zinin.*

    o draft-ietf-avt-mpeg4-simple-08.txt - 3 of 3
    RTP Payload Format for Transport of MPEG-4 Elementary Streams (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Protocol Action announcement.

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item

    o draft-zeilenga-ldap-rfc2596-04.txt - 1 of 1
    Language Tags and Ranges in LDAP (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Ned Freed.*

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-isis-igp-p2p-over-lan-03.txt - 1 of 2
    Point-to-point operation over LAN in link-state routing protocols
    (Informational)
    Token: Bill Fenner

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    o draft-ietf-magma-msf-api-05.txt - 2 of 2
    Socket Interface Extensions for Multicast Source Filters (Informational)
    Token: Margaret Wasserman

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Margaret Wasserman. The Secretariat will send a
    working group submission Document Action announcement that includes
    the RFC Editor Note.

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item

    o draft-newton-ldap-whois-04.txt - 1 of 2
    Domain Administrative Data in LDAP (Experimental)
    Token: Ted Hardie

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
    be prepared by Ted Hardie. The Secretariat will send an individual
    submission Document Action announcement that includes the RFC Editor
    Note.

    o draft-gill-gtsh-01.txt - 2 of 2
    The Generalized TTL Security Mechanism (GTSM) (Experimental)
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item

    NONE

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    o draft-touch-ipsec-vpn-06.txt - 1 of 1
    Use of IPsec Transport Mode for Dynamic Routing (Informational)
    Token: Russ Housley

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG.*

    3.3.3 To be assigned

    o draft-irtf-nsrg-report-10.txt
    What's In A Name:Thoughts from the NSRG (Informational): IRTF document.

    The document was assigned to Russ Housley.

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    o Long-Term Archive and Notary Services (ltans) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

    The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to
    />new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    o Centralized Conferencing (xcon) - 1 of 1
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    o Multiprotocol Label Switching (mpls) - 1 of 6
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised
    charter. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter
    announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org, to include
    additional text to be provided by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat
    will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG
    teleconference.

    o Mobility for IPv4 (mip4) - 2 of 6
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement
    to include additional text to be provided by Thomas Narten.

    o Audio/Video Transport (avt) - 3 of 6
    Token: Allison Mankin

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement

    o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 4 of 6
    Token: Thomas Narten

    The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending
    a revised charter to be provided by Thomas Narten. The Secretariat
    will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

    o Common Control and Measurement Plane (ccamp) - 5 of 6
    Token: Alex Zinin

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
    copy to new-work@ietf.org, to include additional text to be provided
    by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will place the working group on the
    agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

    o Ethernet Interfaces and Hub MIB (hubmib) - 6 of 6
    Token: Bert Wijnen

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
    The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
    copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group
    on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference.

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. Working Group News We Can Use

    6. IAB News We Can Use

    7. Management Issues

    7.1 Appropriate Methods for getting Meeting Minutes from Chairs
    (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed.

    7.2 Interoperability Testing at IETF Meetings (Harald Alvestrand)

    This management issue was discussed.

    7.3 Referral of draft-klensin-name-filters-03.txt to the IAB
    (Ted Hardie)

    This management issue was discussed.

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