Minutes interim-1993-iesg-15 1993-06-10 15:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING

    June 10, 1993

    Recorded by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
    Reported by: John Stewart

    This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

    These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
    by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

    For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
    iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.

    ATTENDEES
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    Bradner, Scott / Harvard
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Crocker, Dave / SGI
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / SUN
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
    Kahle, Brewster / WAIS
    Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
    Mankin, Allison / Locus
    Rose, Marshall / DBC
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI

    IAB Liaison
    Christian Huitema / INRIA
    Yakov Rekhter / IBM

    Regrets
    Chapin, Lyman / BBN
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI

    Agenda

    1. Administrivia

    o Roll Call
    o Bash the Agenda
    o Approval of the Minutes
    - May 13th
    - May 27th
    o Announcements
    o Next meeting

    2. Protocol Actions

    o Distributed Authentication Security Service
    o Op Reqs for X.400 Management Domains
    o Assertion of C=US; A=IMX
    o IP Multicast over Token Ring
    o Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay
    o OIM MIB
    o Bridge MIB

    3. Management Issues

    o Brewster Kahle's status as Applications Area Co-director
    o RARE Technical Reports
    o Dynamic Host Configuration
    o Router Requirement
    o CIDR A/S
    o Working Group Management

    4. RFC Editor Actions

    o Speedloader

    5. Working Group Actions

    o Internet Protocol Security Protocol (ipsec)
    o Authorization and Access Control (aac)
    o Interactive Mail Access Protocol (imap)
    o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic)
    o Inter-Domain Multicast Routing Working Group (IDMR)

    Minutes

    1. Administrivia

    o Approval of the Minutes
    - May 13th
    deferred
    - May 27th
    deferred
    o Announcements
    This is Greg Vaudreuil's last IESG teleconference. John Stewart
    will serve as the IESG Secretary after Greg leaves.
    o Next meeting
    24 June 11:30 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. EDT

    2. Protocol Actions

    o Distributed Authentication Security Service
    The IESG approved the Internet-Draft <draft-ietf-cat-dass-02.txt>
    "Distributed Authentication Security Service" for publication as
    an Experimental RFC.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce to IETF-Announce the IESG's decision to
    allow the "Distributed Authentication Security Service" Internet-Draft
    to be published as an Experimental RFC.

    o Op Reqs for X.400 Management Domains
    This document has not yet been reviewed by the Area Director.

    o Assertion of C=US; A=IMX
    The Area Director has some problems with how the document is
    being put forth. Erik will talk to the authors and then report
    back to the IESG.

    ACTION: Huizer -- Contact the authors of the "Assertion of C=US; A=IMX"
    Internet-Draft and report back to the IESG to summarize the issues.

    o IP Multicast over Token Ring
    The IESG approved the Internet-Draft
    <draft-pusateri-tokenring-lan-02.txt> "IP Multicast over Token
    Ring" as a Proposed Standard.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "IP Multicast over Token Ring" as a
    Proposed Standard to IETF-Announce.

    o Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay
    The IESG approved the Internet-Draft
    <draft-ietf-iplpdn-framerelay-04.txt> "Multiprotocol
    Interconnect over Frame Relay" as a Draft Standard.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame
    Relay" as a Draft Standard to IETF-Announce.

    o OIM MIB
    The IESG approved moving "OIM MIB" to Historic status.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "OIM MIB" as Historic to IETF-Announce.

    o Bridge MIB
    The IESG approved the Internet-Draft
    <draft-ietf-bridge-definitions-02.txt> "Definitions of Managed
    Objects for Bridges" as a Draft Standard.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "Definitions of Managed Objects for
    Bridges" as a Draft Standard to IETF-Announce.

    3. Management Issues

    o Brewster Kahle's status as Applications Area Co-director
    Due to time constraints, Brewster will be stepping down. Erik
    Huizer needs help very soon, especially in light of the upcoming
    IETF. There was a proposal to appoint John Klensin as an
    interim Area Co-director. John is one of the most active
    members of the Applications Area directorate, and, according to
    Erik and Brewster, is currently the best candidate to fill the
    position.

    Christian Huitema believes that the IAB needs to approve any
    interim Area [Co]-director. No agreement was reached. An off-
    line teleconference will be scheduled to try and resolve the
    issue of IAB approval. The point of conflict is whether the
    IESG should be entitled to make temporary appointments, without
    approval of the IAB or its nominating committee, in what the
    IESG deems as emergency situations.

    ACTION: Gross -- Set up a teleconference with Gross, Huitema, SCrocker,
    Chapin, and anyone else in the IESG who wants to join, to discuss
    whether IAB approval is needed for IESG appointees for interim Area
    [Co]-directors.

    ACTION: Huietema -- Communicate to the IAB the IESG's desire to have
    an interim Applications Area Co-director soon.

    o Working Group Requirements Document
    The Working Group Requirements document will be posted as an
    Internet-Draft on Friday.

    o RARE Technical Reports
    The IESG agreed to allow the use of Internet-Drafts and RFCs for
    RARE documents. Jon Postel, RFC Editor, has indicated that this
    is acceptable as long as he retains RFC Editor control.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify Jon Postel of the IESG decision to allow
    Internet-Drafts and RFCs to be used for RARE documents.

    o Dynamic Host Configuration
    Dave Piscitello was not present. No action to report.

    o Router Requirement
    No action to report.

    o CIDR Applicability Statement
    There was discussion on whether the A/S should enumerate
    specific protocols or not. Bob Hinden said he would prefer that
    the document contain a list, but that he would go along with
    what the rest of the IESG decided. The decision made was not to
    list specific routing protocols, but rather have a separate AS
    for CIDR, and a separate AS for a common EGP. There are some
    remaining details that will be worked out in a teleconference.

    ACTION: Hinden and Rekhter -- Have conference call to get the
    specifics of what parts of CIDR should be included in the AS,
    and what, if anything, should be in any companion document(s).

    ACTION: Hinden -- Post a reviced CIDR draft by Friday 18 June.

    o Registering MIME extensions
    There has been significant confusion about the procedure for
    registering MIME content types, charsets, and content transfer-
    encodings. The Gopher people expressed concern about the
    apparent difficulty of doing this.

    ACTION: Huizer -- Send mail to IESG with possible resolution to
    problem of registering MIME extensions.

    4. RFC Editor Actions

    o Speedloader
    The IESG determined that this document on machine-readable
    bibliographies is similar to other work going on in the IETF.
    A two week extension will be requested from the RFC Editor so
    that the IESG can discuss with the author the plan of convening
    a BOF at the next IETF meeting to review these several similar
    proposals.

    ACTION: Huizer -- Work with the authors to for a BOF to discuss
    these machine-readable bibliography-related proposals.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Ask the RFC Editor for an extension while the
    IESG talks to the authors.

    5. Working Group Actions

    o Internet Protocol Security Protocol (ipsec)
    o Authorization and Access Control (aac)
    These working group charters have been held up awaiting a
    security architecture statement. This statement has been
    delayed, and these otherwise reasonable working groups are
    now in a scheduling bind. The IESG agreed to approve the
    working groups in two weeks if the architecture statement is
    approved, or as soon as it is submitted to the IESG.
    Meanwhile, these groups will be given permission to schedule
    a session at the Amsterdam IETF.

    ACTION: SCrocker -- Send the security architecture statement to
    the IESG so that approval of the ipsec and aac working groups
    can happen on the list.

    ACTION: SCrocker -- Authorize the ipsec and aac groups to meet in
    Amsterdam.

    o Interactive Mail Access Protocol (imap)
    The IESG approved this working group.

    o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic)
    Erik is waiting for a response from proposed chairs on the
    changes suggested by the IAB.

    o Inter-Domain Multicast Routing Working Group (IDMR)
    Because the charter was just submitted, this decision will
    be deferred for two weeks. The group is authorized to
    meet in Amsterdam.

    ACTION: Hinden -- Communicate to the prospective IDMR working
    group chairs the IESG decision to allow them to meet in Amsterdam.

    6. Tasked Items

    o IETF Charter
    No action to report.