Minutes interim-1993-iesg-06 1993-02-22 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING

    February 22nd, 1993

    Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

    This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

    These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
    by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

    For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
    iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.

    ATTENDEES
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    Almquist, Philip / Consultant
    Chapin, Lyman / BBN
    Crocker, Dave / TBO
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / SUN
    Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
    Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI

    Regrets

    Borman, David / Cray Research
    Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI

    AGENDA
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    1) Administrivia
    o Role Call
    o Bash the Agenda
    o Approval of the Minutes
    - February 1st
    - February 8th

    2) Protocol Actions
    o Directed ARP
    o NFS
    o RPC
    o IP Address Guidelines
    o X.500 DUA Metrics
    o Noop Tools RFC

    3) Technical management issues

    o Nomination Committee Clarification
    o Network Management Area
    o SNMP
    o RIP Applicability Statement
    o Wide Area Routing with RIP
    o Delegation of Naming Authority for the US Domain

    4) RFC Editor Actions

    o SNMP Over Foo Documents

    5) Working Group Actions
    o IP Security (ipsec)
    o Integrated Directory Services (ids)
    o Training Materials (trainmat)
    o Remote Conferencing (remconf)
    o Secure FTP

    MINUTES
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    1) Administrivia

    o Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes from the Teleconferences of February 1st and February
    8th were approved.

    o Next Meeting

    The next IESG teleconference was scheduled for March 1st, from 11:30
    to 1:30 ET.

    2) Protocol Actions

    o Directed ARP

    After consulting with the IPLPDN Working Group, it is clear this
    protocol is a product of that group. The proposal suffers from
    several technical flaws and the IESG was concerned that there is no
    specific interest in actually implementing and experimenting with
    this protocol. Acknowledging these shortcomings, the IESG approved
    this protocol for publication as Experimental. This protocol will
    clearly need additional work should it be proposed for
    standardization.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the approval of the Directed ARP
    specification as an Experimental Protocol.

    The IESG discussed the general case where a IETF Working Group may
    produce a specification for experimentation which has significant
    shortcomings.

    POSITION: A protocol which is intended to be experimental may be
    published as a IETF Working Group product even with known technical
    deficiencies.

    o NFS/RPC

    There is no action to report.

    o IP Addressing Guidelines

    Progress is being made on preparing the CIDR document set. The IESG
    was reminded that it is responsible for an Applicability Statement
    (AS) for CIDR.

    ACTION: Gross, Hinden: Write the Applicability Statement for CIDR.

    o X.500 DUA Metrics

    The IESG had no objection to the publication of this document as an
    informational product of the OSIDS Working Group.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the acceptance of the X.500 DUA Metrics
    document as an Informational document.

    o Tools RFC

    The IESG discussed this Network OSI Operations Working Group
    document. The document is partly a requirements document and partly
    a NOC Tools style catalogue of tools necessary to operate a CLNP
    internet. It was noted that this work would be a good candidate for
    a proposed standard "CLNP requirements" document.

    The title needs to be revised before it can be published as an RFC.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil - Request clarification from the Working Group
    chairman about the nature of this document. Communicate the IESG sense
    that this would be a good basis of a requirements document.

    3) Technical Management Issues

    o Nomination Committee Request

    The IESG nomination committee requested clarification on an earlier
    IESG discussion as to whether the IESG facilitator and the IETF
    chairman should be the same person. The IESG discussed this and
    agreed that the IETF chairman should remain the chairman of the
    IESG. Secretariat help is available to delegate specific tasks as
    the chairman requires.

    POSITION: IESG chairman should be the IETF chairman. Secretariat help
    is available as needed and as delegated by the IETF chairman.

    ACTION: Coya - Further ponder the role of the IESG facilitator WRT to
    the IETF Secretariat and report thoughts to the IESG.

    o Network Management Area

    With the resignation of Chuck Davin, the IESG is without a Network
    Management Area Director. Besides the ongoing work on SNMP
    Evolution, there are a collection of MIBs that require review and
    processing for advancement. The IESG agreed that the IESG should be
    able to cover for the Network Management Area Director and should
    not wait for a new Area Director.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Investigate the current status of the Network
    Management Area Directorate and investigate the process by which the
    various MIBS can be reviewed.

    o SNMP Version2

    The SNMP Version 2 protocol is nearing completion and is expected to
    be submitted to the IESG before Columbus. There continues to be a
    degree of controversy over the process and to a lesser degree the
    content of the protocol.

    ACTION: SCrocker, Piscitello - Poll the SNMP community for feedback on
    the process of SNMP Evolution. Report to the IESG.

    Two documents are of low quality and need to be rewritten, however
    the IESG was willing to allow the current documents to progress
    provided they are re-written before advancement to Draft Standard.

    o RIP Applicability Statement.

    No action to report.

    o Wide Area Routing with RIP

    No action to report

    o Delegation of Naming Authority for the US Domain

    Discussion on the delegation of authority for the US domain was deferred.

    4) RFC Editor Actions

    o SNMP over Multi-Protocols

    There was no objection from the working group or authors to the
    elimination of the text in each referring to SNMP Security.

    ACTION: Piscitello - Communicate to the RFC Editor the IESG willingness
    to have the SNMP over Foo documents edited before publication to
    eliminate the SNMP Security references.

    5) Working Group Actions

    o IP Security

    No Progress to Report

    o Integrated Directory Services (ids)

    The formation of the Integrated Directory Services Working Group was
    approved by the IESG.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Integrated Directory
    Services Working Group.

    o Network Training Materials (trainmat)

    The formation of the Training Materials Working Group was approved
    by the IESG.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Network Training
    Materials Working Group.

    o Remote Conferencing

    The Remote Conferencing work is being carried out in several single
    focus working groups. As additional requirements arise other
    Working Groups will be formed. No further action is required.

    o Secure FTP

    It is not clear whether this effort should be chartered in the
    Applications or Security Area. While the focus is intended to be on
    security aspects, other changes to FTP are possible and should be
    coordinated in the Applications Area. No resolution was reached in
    the short time this was discussed.

    Appendix -- Summary of Action Items Assigned

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the approval of the Directed ARP
    specification as an Experimental Protocol.

    ACTION: Gross, Hinden: Write the Applicability Statement for CIDR.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the acceptance of the X.500 DUA Metrics
    document as an Informational document.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil - Request clarification from the Working Group
    chairman about the nature of this document. Communicate the IESG sense
    that this would be a good basis of a requirements document.

    ACTION: Coya - Further ponder the role of the IESG facilitator WRT to
    the IETF Secretariat and report thoughts to the IESG.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Investigate the current status of the Network
    Management Area Directorate and investigate the process by which the
    various MIBS can be reviewed.

    ACTION: SCrocker, Piscitello - Poll the SNMP community for feedback on
    the process of SNMP Evolution. Report to the IESG.

    ACTION: Piscitello - Communicate to the RFC Editor the IESG willingness
    to have the SNMP over Foo documents edited before publication to
    eliminate the SNMP Security references.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Integrated Directory
    Services Working Group.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Network Training
    Materials Working Group.

    Appendix - Summary of Positions Taken

    POSITION: A protocol which is intended to be experimental may be
    published as a IETF Working Group product even with known technical
    deficiencies.

    POSITION: IESG chairman should be the IETF chairman. Secretariat help
    is available as needed and as delegated by the IETF chairman.