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Date and time 1992-11-10 17:00
Title Minutes interim-1992-iesg-28 1992-11-10 17:00
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE

    November 10th, 1992

    Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

    This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

    These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
    by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

    For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.

    ATTENDEES
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    Almquist, Philip / Consultant
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / SUN
    Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
    Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
    Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI

    Regrets

    Borman, David / Cray Research
    Crocker, Dave / TBO
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore

    AGENDA
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    This meeting was called to reach closure on ROAD related scheduling topics
    discussed in the November 9th teleconference. Specific topics to be resolved were:

    o Scheduling of Monday morning technical presentations.
    o Goals for this meeting
    o Specific timeline for making a decision on IPV7

    Minutes
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    o Monday Morning Presentations

    At the November 9th teleconference, the IESG discussed the inclusion of
    a special presentation for CLNP to provide a basis for understanding
    TUBA. The IESG discussed and agreed that CLNP was part of the TUBA
    proposal and should be outlined as part of that proposal.

    DECISION: A special presentation for CLNP will not be scheduled in the
    limited time available for IPV7 Proposals Monday Morning.

    It has been suggested that IPAE and SIP are now merging into one and
    the same proposal. As a single proposal they should share a single
    presentation slot to allow more time for all presentations. The IESG
    discussed this and could not conclude that SIP and IPAE were the same
    proposals and agreed to continue with the agenda as published.

    DECISION: IPAE and SIP will not share a presentation slot.

    SIP has not yet been documented as an Internet Draft. This Internet
    Draft posting is a hard milestone for presentations and the IESG
    affirmed that an ID posting must be made by Wednesday November 11th for
    the SIP presentation to continue.

    ACTION: Almquist -- Call Steve Deering and remind him of the
    requirement that an ID posting is required for a Monday Morning plenary
    slot.

    ACTION: Coya -- Send an email message to Steve Deering to confirm that
    Deering understands the requirement that SIP be posted as an ID for a
    Monday morning plenary slot.

    o ROAD Goals for Washington.

    After further discussion, the IESG reconsidered the earlier position
    that the goal of this meeting was to choose a specific proposal. The
    IESG did not feel that it was reasonable to eliminate any proposals
    based on the presentations alone, and would prefer to base any decision
    on the traditional standardization process. That is, write
    specifications first, build implementations, demonstrate
    interoperability. and then evaluate the proposals in making a
    decision.

    POSITION: The IESG will not make it a goal to narrow the selection of
    IP Version 7 candidates at the November IETF meeting and will work to
    give specific feedback on each proposal based on the revised Criteria.

    o Goals and Milestones for IP Version 7 Proposals.

    In the likely event that all issues will not be clear enough coming out
    of the Nov IETF meeting to make a final selection for IPv7, the IESG
    adopted the following additional set of goals and milestones for the
    selection process. These goals are designed to make the choice between
    the proposals more clear by providing a concrete base for evaluation.

    December 15, 1992: Publish the final Selection Criteria as an RFC, as
    revised by the Criteria BOF at the November IETF.

    December 15, 1992: The IESG will post constructive feed back on each
    of the proposals presented in Washington based on the final Selection
    Criteria.

    February 12, 1992: At least two multiple interoperable implementations
    of the various proposals will be made available for community review.
    Binaries and man pages with detailed installation and operation
    instructions from at least 2 independent implementations should be
    posted for anonymous FTP. Source code and documentation is desired
    but not required.

    February 26, 1993: The second draft of the protocol report document
    should be posted with special attention to how the protocol meets the
    final Selection Criteria.

    Appendix - Action Items
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    ACTION: Almquist -- Call Steve Deering and remind him of the
    requirement that an ID posting is required for a Monday Morning plenary
    slot.

    ACTION: Coya -- Send an email message to Steve Deering to confirm that
    Deering understands the requirement that SIP be posted as an ID for a
    Monday morning plenary slot.