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Date and time 1992-11-09 17:00
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minutes-interim-1992-iesg-27-199211091700-00
											
Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

    REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE

    November 9th, 1992

    Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

    This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

    These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
    by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

    For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.

    ATTENDEES
    ---------

    Almquist, Philip / Consultant
    Borman, David / Cray Research
    Crocker, Dave / TBO
    Coya, Steve / CNRI
    Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
    Gross, Philip / ANS
    Hinden, Robert / SUN
    Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
    Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
    Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
    Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
    Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
    Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI

    Regrets
    Crocker, Steve / TIS
    Huizer, Erik / SURFnet

    AGENDA
    ------

    1) Administivia

    o Role Call
    o Bash the Agenda
    o Approval of the Minutes
    - November 2nd
    o New Area Director Search Report

    2) Protocol Actions

    o Token Ring MIB
    o Ident MIB
    o Ident
    o String Representation of Distinguished Name

    Technical Management Issues

    o ROAD Action Plan for Washington
    - ROAD Decision Plan
    - Presentation planning for Monday
    o Integration of the OSI Area.

    MINUTES
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    1) Administrivia

    o Approval of the minutes

    Minutes of November 2nd were approved.

    o New Area Director Report

    After talking with the several candidates proposed during the last
    IESG meeting to replace Noel Chiappa, Phil Gross, with the approval
    of the IESG, invited Stev Knowles to join the IESG. Steve Knowles
    accepted and was added to this teleconference.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Add Stev Knowles to the IESG mailing lists and
    record his new position in the on-line information.

    2) Protocol Actions

    o Token Ring MIB

    No action to report.

    o IDENT/ IDENT MIB

    No action to report.

    o String Representation of Distinguished Names

    The IESG has reviewed and has agreed to recommend "String
    Representation of Distinguished Names" as a Proposed Standard. (See
    note in appendix)

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
    Internet Draft <draft-ietf-osids-distnames-04, .txt, .ps> as a Proposed
    Standard.

    3) Technical Management Issues.

    o Road Decision

    The IESG Road decision plan was published as RFC 1380. A second
    effort to expand and prioritize the decision criteria has been
    submitted as an Internet Draft, and a BOF to discuss these and the
    IESG criteria has been scheduled for the Washington DC IETF
    meeting. It has been pointed out that Network Operators and users
    have been under-represented in the selection criteria and that
    special attention may need to be given to those who's concerns may
    be diminished in the quest for technical solutions.

    The IESG plan calls for making a decision on an IPV7 candidate
    following the November IETF meeting. With at least two strong
    contenders that will satisfy the initial milestones, it is not clear
    that a single choice can be clearly made. The IESG considered
    several options, and agreed that the goal still remains to narrow
    the choice to a single candidate for IP Version 7 at some point
    after the plenary meeting.

    POSITION: The IESG intends to bring about as much closure in the next
    IP decision as possible at the November 92 IETF meeting. While the
    goal is to choose one proposal, the IESG will not rush into an
    unfounded judgement in the face of the published timeframe.

    The IESG agreed to meet again November 10th to discussed possible
    criteria and milestones to be used in the event a choice is not
    possible at the November IETF meeting.

    ACTION: Coya -- Schedule a teleconference for Tuesday November 10th
    from 1-2 PM ET.

    o Monday ROAD Plenary Presentations.

    The IESG has been asked to re-allocate the time for IPv7
    presentations at the next plenary. The TUBA proposal relies upon
    the understanding of CLNP, and time was requested for a review of
    the CLNP proposal. The time for the presentations was too tight to
    allow a new presentation. However, it was observed that the SIP and
    IPAE efforts have, to some extent, merged and may be able to combine
    their presentations. If this is possible, the presentation slots
    will become longer allowing some time in the TUBA presentation for
    CLNP.

    ACTION: Almquist -- Contact Steve Deering and ascertain whether the SIP
    and IPAE presentations can be merged. Further remind Deering of the
    requirement to publish an Internet Draft describing SIP by this
    Wednesday to retain his speaking slot should he decide to keep it.

    o IESG Re-Alignment

    The IESG discussed and initially accepted the proposal to integrate
    the OSI Working Groups into their natural areas. Dave Piscitello
    indicated that he was now willing to move to the Internet Area and
    assume responsibility for PDN and Large Network Issues as well as
    oversee the integration of OSI network layer protocols. After
    Steve Knowels indicated his willingness to serve as an Internet Area
    Director and joined the teleconference, he expressing a desire to
    not serve as part of a triumverate. With the immediate need of
    finding help for Philip Almquist and with little time to explore
    partial integration of the OSI Working Groups, the IESG reconsidered
    the OSI integration proposal and opted to delay action.

    Appendix -- Summary of Mailing List Discussions
    --------

    o User Friendly Naming

    Steve Kent submitted a series of comments shortly after the
    teleconference, mostly pertaining to documentation style and
    clarification. In particular he has asked that an addition example
    be included and that a section describing an optional/ not
    recommended format be dropped from the document. This section was
    added to satisfy Christian Huitema who during this exchange agreed
    that it should be deleted. Dave Crocker raised a concern over
    Friendly Naming's use of comma as a separating, since it will cause
    difficulties for RFC822 parsers should the DN's be used in email
    addresses. Crocker was satisfied with an explanation of the Working
    Groups reasoning.

    ANTI-ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Do Not send a recommendation for the String
    Representation of Distinguished Name document.

    ACTION: Huizer -- Communicatate the comments received by the IESG to
    the OSIDS Working Group and encourage a new version of the String
    Representation of Distinguished Name document.

    Appendix -- Action Items
    --------

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Add Stev Knowles to the IESG mailing lists and
    record his new position in the on-line information.

    ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
    Internet Draft <draft-ietf-osids-distnames-04, .txt, .ps> as a Proposed
    Standard.

    ACTION: Coya -- Schedule a teleconference for Tuesday November 10th
    from 1-2 PM ET.

    ACTION: Almquist -- Contact Steve Deering and ascertain whether the SIP
    and IPAE presentations can be merged. Further remind Deering of the
    requirement to publish an Internet Draft describing SIP by this
    Wednesday to retain his speaking slot should he decide to keep it.

    Appendix -- Positions Taken
    --------

    POSITION: The IESG intends to bring about as much closure in the next
    IP decision as possible at the November 92 IETF meeting. While the
    goal is to choose one proposal, the IESG will not rush into an
    unfounded judgement in the face of the published timeframe.