specification.Network File System Version 4 WG (nfsv4)

Friday, November 14 at 0900-1130
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CHAIRS:

Brian Pawlowski <beepy@netapp.com>
Spencer Shepler <spencer.shepler@sun.com>

AGENDA:

Welcome and Introduction            (Pawlowski)        5 min
Agenda bash etc.
    - BLUE SHEETS
    - NOTE WELL
    - Status of drafts
Bakeathon results and issues        (Shepler)         10 min
Review of working group goals and milestones (Pawlowski) 10 min
Minor revisions to NFSv4            (Shepler)         10 min
Draft status and next steps         (Shepler)         10 min
Transfer of RPC Numbering to IANA   (Shepler)         5 min
Migration/replication status        (Shepler)         2 min
Review of CCM Drafts                (Williams)        10 min

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf
t-ietf-nfsv4-channel-bindings-00.txt

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf
t-ietf-nfsv4-ccm-02.txt
Mapping Between NFSv4 and Posix Draft ACLs      (Shepler)       10 min

http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draf
t-ietf-nfsv4-acl-mapping-00.txt
NFS and RDMA/RDDP work              (Pawlowski)       10 min
Open discussion                     (Pawlowski)       10 m
Wrapup                              (Pawlowski)        5 m


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Spencer noted that Beepy would not be present at this WG meeting because of 
illness.

Spencer presented the agenda to the very small group in attendance with no 
additions; Noted well and blue sheets were presented.

The October bakeathon results were presented noting the large number of 
engineers (30+) and implementations (6) represented at the Austin, TX 
event.  No specification issues were found during this event but there were 
numerous discussions about implementation choices that did occur.  Those 
leading the implementation discussions are encouraged to carry those 
discussions into the WG alias.

Spencer noted that progress in the Kerberos/NFS testing with all 
implementations and extended features like migration starting to see some 
work.  The next organized test event is Connectathon 2004 (see 
www.connectathon.org for event details and the specific dates in 
February).

Spencer continued with a recap of the NFSv4 WG goals (see 
presentation) noting the progress with the RDDP problem and 
requirements statement.

Spencer then moved on to discussion of NFSv4's minor versioning 
mechanism and the ongoing discussion that has occurred within the 
working group about management of minor versions within the context of the 
working group charter and in the large of the IESG. Spencer noted the 
level of activity in the working group and the areas of interest and 
problem solving that seemed to point to healthy involvement and 
reasonable direction; Spencer also noted the need for direction from the 
Area Directors to ensure the WG was moving the an appropriate 
direction.  The feedback from the AD in attendance (Allison Mankin) that the 
WG activity and direction seemed appropriate.  The WG should, when 
identifying a work area, involve the ADs for charter addition and 
clarity of work items.

Spencer moved onto the review of WG Drafts noting that the updated XDR 
draft had cleared WG last call and is ready to move to IESG/IETF last call 
for its final step to becoming an internet standard. Also noting the 
updates to the RPC (RFC1831bis) draft and the need for progress in the 
server-to-server migration/replication protocol.

When noting the NFSv4 ACL mapping I-D that is active, Allison 
mentioned that there is other work going on within the IETF around ACL 
mechanisms and that it would be prudent for the NFSv4 WG to become 
engaged in those discussions in some form.  ADs and WG co-chairs to work 
this issue.

The issue of transfer of the RPC numbering to IANA was presented. It was 
noted that the IANA has been busy/unresponsive in general and the 
general issue of IANA/IETF coordination is being worked. For this 
specific issue, it was decided that the transfer details be worked as part of 
the review of the updated RPC internet draft as it moves through 
IESG/IETF approval instead of waiting on completion of the transfer 
details before draft movement.

The rest of the presentation covering the status of the 
replication/migration, ACLs, and RDDP work items was covered without major 
discussion or