2.8.2 Web Elucidation of Internet-Related Developments (weird)

NOTE: This charter is a snapshot of the 49th IETF Meeting in San Diego, California. It may now be out-of-date. Last Modified: 28-Nov-00

Chair(s):

Christopher Burke <ccb007@NAmerica.mot.com>

User Services Area Director(s):

April Marine <april.marine@nominum.com>

User Services Area Advisor:

April Marine <april.marine@nominum.com>

Mailing Lists:

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Archive: http://www.imc.org/ietf-weird/

Description of Working Group:

The WEIRD working group will develop a set of web pages. The target audience is people new to the IETF and other Internet generalists. Content within the scope of the group includes: current IETF WG and BOF activities, dependencies and interrelationships among specific IETF WG and BOF activities, BOF historical information, IAB / IESG / Secretariat issues and topics of interest and their impact.

Content specifically out of scope includes: information interpreting trends in Internet engineering and standards; IETF-related information that is editorial in nature.

It is thought that by starting with concrete information of general interest related to a topic the WG knows well (IETF activities), the concept of doing web pages would be well-tested. Future evaluations of the process could address the question of re-examining the audience or content scope.

Web content will be developed in collaboration with the IETF Secretariat using a mix of new material and material from existing Web pages and FYI documents. Information will be presented in an online format suitable for the casual Internet user, combining text and illustration.

In order to create a historic archive of the online data and to make it more accessible to users who may have difficulty with online access, the working group will capture at least one snapshot of the web pages and publish it as an FYI RFC.

Goals and Milestones:

May 99

  

Finalize outline for pages and prioritize sections

Jul 99

  

Formally solicit feedback regarding progress to date

Jul 99

  

Review progress, outline and prioritization of tasks and

Nov 99

  

Formally solicit feedback regarding progress to date

Nov 99

  

Review outline and prioritization of tasks and revise if necessary

Feb 00

  

Create hardcopy version and submit as Internet-Draft

Mar 00

  

Submit hardcopy version for RFC publication

Jul 00

  

Review progress and make decision to disband or re-charter

No Current Internet-Drafts
No Request For Comments

Current Meeting Report

Web Elucidation of Internet-Related Developments (weird)

Chair: Christopher Burke <ccb007@NAmerica.mot.com>
User Services Area Director(s): April Marine <april.marine@nominum.com>
General Discussion:ietf-weird@imc.org
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Chair for this session: April Marine <april.marine@nominum.com>
Minutes: Walt Houser <houser.walt@forum.va.gov>

Chris Burke contacted April to say that he would be unable to make the meeting. April proposed a one-line agenda: To Be or Not to Be. It was accepted. Susan Harris and Walt Houser had attended before. The other two participants were new to the WG.

WEIRD was always an experimental group. What is the scope of the group? It is intended to explain the IETF to the general public and those who are considering coming to the IETF for the first time. Should it alert IETFers to the status of major developments? This would be a difficult task that in some measure duplicates the role of the trade press. It also requires considerable effort from knowledgeable authors. For example, instant messaging is a hot topic that WEIRD could summarize. IM got wedged and split into three groups. The situation is highly volatile. Before putting a discussion of this sensitive situation on the IETF web pages, we would need to consult with the involved parties.

The scope is potentially the entire IETF and its activities. Those new to the IETF don't tend to read RFCs, but they will read web pages.

Should we do a use-case analysis to get a better understanding of the possible audiences for WEIRD web pages? Should we review the emails from the public?

Finally, should we continue or not? We have an audience and a medium, but not content. Should we have a standing WG to cover IETF activities? Firms and organizations are willing to send people to produce standards and protocols in order to make or buy products. But they are less likely to pay for online news summaries.

Other WEIRD like activities we could pursue:
· IETF FAQ?
· Funny RFCs.
· BOF Overviews.
· Help mail list to answer general questions about the IETF.

We concluded we could put this work into USWG, as WEIRD does not have the momentum. We reached the consensus that WEIRD should be shut down.

Slides

None received.