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Date and time 2017-05-11 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the May 11, 2017 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Ignas Bagdonas / Scribe
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Suzanne Woolf / IAB Liaison

REGRETS 
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

GUEST
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Carsten Bormann, co-author of draft-ietf-core-coap-tcp-tls

OBSERVERS
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Sara Dickinson
Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the April 27, 2017 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the April 27, 2017 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the April 27, 2017 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain-24  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-lmap-yang-12  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Kathleen Moriarty to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-oauth-
    amr-values.

NEW:
  o Suresh Krishnan to find designated experts for RFC-kivinen-802-15-ie 
    [IANA #953569].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-core-coap-tcp-tls-08  - IETF stream
    CoAP (Constrained Application Protocol) over TCP, TLS, and
    WebSockets (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell, Mirja Kuehlewind, Eric Rescorla, and Adam 
Roach.*

  o draft-ietf-6man-rfc1981bis-06  - IETF stream
    Path MTU Discovery for IP version 6 (Internet Standard) - 2 of 3
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Warren Kumari, Mirja Kuehlewind, and 
Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-dprive-dtls-and-tls-profiles-09  - IETF stream
    Authentication and (D)TLS Profile for DNS-over-(D)TLS (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 3
    Token: Terry Manderson

Warren Kumari formally recused himself from the discussion. The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Suresh Krishnan, Alexey Melnikov, and Eric Rescorla.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  o draft-ietf-bess-evpn-vpws-13  - IETF stream
    VPWS support in EVPN (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items   
  o draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multipath-13  - IETF stream
    Multipath Extension for the Optimized Link State Routing Protocol
    version 2 (OLSRv2) (Experimental) - 1 of 3
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind.*

  o draft-ietf-i2nsf-problem-and-use-cases-16  - IETF stream
    I2NSF Problem Statement and Use cases (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-grow-large-communities-usage-07  - IETF stream
    Use of BGP Large Communities (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Warren Kumari

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Warren Kumari. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-pantos-http-live-streaming-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-pantos-http-live-streaming
      draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-22
      HTTP Live Streaming (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ben Campbell

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Ben Campbell.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Registration of model/3mf media type (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved the registration 
of the model/3mf media type.

   6.2 [IANA #953569] Designated expert for RFC-kivinen-802-15-ie 
       (Amanda Baber/IANA)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Suresh Krishnan to find a designated expert for RFC-
kivinen-802-15-ie [IANA #953569].

   6.3 Review of Desired Expertise Descriptions for the 2018 NomCom 
       (Alvaro Retana)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.4 YANG catalog announcement (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.5 Closure on RFC-to-be 8174 Citation Discussion (Ben Campbell)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.