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minutes-interim-2016-iesg-03-201602041500-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 4, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / incoming Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlwind (ETH Zurich) / incoming Transport Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Martin Stiemerling (Darmstadt University of Applied Sciences) / 
 Transport Area
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Brian Trammell (ETH Zurich) / IAB Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
--------------------------------- 
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area 
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Alexey Melnikov / incoming Applications and Real-Time Area
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

GUEST
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Benson Schliesser (present for item 6.3 only)

OBSERVERS
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Janos Farkas
Luigi Iannone
Yoshifumi Nishida
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 21, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 21, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 21, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-17  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-appsawg-http-problem-03  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Jari Arkko to establish the previously agreed facilitator(s) on the 
    ietf@ietf list.
  o Jari Arkko to draft a note to the community on RFC formats and I-D 
    formats.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Alia Atlas to draft an FAQ on interactions in the IETF.
  o Jari Arkko to talk to the current moderators of ietf@ietf list on 
    where to draw the line between guidance and moderation.
  o Jari Arkko and Barry Leiba to produce the next version of the Note 
    Well and send it to the IESG and IAOC for review.
  o Benoit Claise to update the IESG statement on interim meetings to 
    include a point about archiving meeting announcements.

NEW:
  o Barry Leiba to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-oauth-proof-of-
    possession [IANA #888133].
  o Barry Leiba to find an additional designated expert for RFC 7762 
    [IANA #891025].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-failover-15  - IETF stream
    SCTP-PF: Quick Failover Algorithm in SCTP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 
    6
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Spencer Dawkins confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ntp-extension-field-06  - IETF stream
    The Network Time Protocol Version 4 (NTPv4) Extension Fields
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 6
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Brian Haberman confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-ecrit-held-routing-04  - IETF stream
    A Routing Request Extension for the HELD Protocol (Proposed
    Standard) - 3 of 6
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alissa Cooper confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-isis-te-metric-extensions-09  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Traffic Engineering (TE) Metric Extensions (Proposed Standard)
    - 4 of 6
    Token: Alvaro Retana

Alia Atlas formally recused herself from the discussion. The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-architecture-09  - IETF stream
    An Architecture for IP/LDP Fast-Reroute Using Maximally Redundant
    Trees (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 6

Alia Atlas formally recused herself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Alvaro 
Retana confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-mrt-frr-algorithm-08  - IETF stream
    An Algorithm for Computing Maximally Redundant Trees for IP/LDP
    Fast-Reroute (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 6
    Token: Alvaro Retana

Alia Atlas formally recused herself from the discussion. The document 
was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will 
send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Alvaro 
Retana confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-ippm-checksum-trailer-05  - IETF stream
    UDP Checksum Complement in OWAMP and TWAMP (Experimental) - 1 of 2
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-spring-problem-statement-06  - IETF stream
    SPRING Problem Statement and Requirements (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve 
points raised by Deborah Brungard, Benoit Claise, Stephen Farrell, Brian 
Haberman, and Terry Manderson.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items   
  o draft-mahesh-mef-urn-02  - IETF stream
    URN Namespace for MEF Documents (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an 
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-dolmatov-kuznyechik-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-dolmatov-kuznyechik
      draft-dolmatov-kuznyechik-05
      GOST R 34.12-2015: Block Cipher "Kuznyechik" (ISE: Informational) 
      - 1 of 1
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Stephen Farrell.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o Locator/ID Separation Protocol (lisp) - 1 of 3
    Area: RTG (Deborah Brungard)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Jari Arkko.*  

  o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic) - 2 of 3
    Area: ART (Ben Campbell)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Dispatch (dispatch) - 3 of 3
    Area: ART (Ben Campbell)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending additional text to be supplied by Ben Campbell.  The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG teleconference (February 18, 2016).

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Executive Session: IAOC Selection (Jari Arkko)

The management item was discussed in an executive session.

   6.2 [IANA #888133] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-oauth-proof-of-
       possession (Amanda Baber / IANA)

The management item was discussed.

Action item: Barry Leiba to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-oauth-
proof-of-possession [IANA #888133].

   6.3 IETF and ONS collaboration (Jari Arkko)

The management item was discussed,

   6.4 [IANA #891025] Designated expert for RFC 7762 (Amanda Baber / 
       IANA)

The management item was discussed. The IESG approved Mike West 
<mkwst@google.com> as a designated expert for RFC 7762.

Action item: Barry Leiba to find an additional designated expert for RFC 
7762 [IANA #891025].

7. Working Group news


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.