Minutes interim-2016-iesg-02 2016-01-21 15:00
minutes-interim-2016-iesg-02-201601211500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 21, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area 
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / incoming Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlwind (ETH Zurich) / incoming Transport Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / incoming Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Martin Stiemerling (Darmstadt University of Applied Sciences) / 
 Transport Area
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Brian Trammell (ETH Zurich) / IAB Liaison
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
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Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe


OBSERVERS
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Scott Bradner
Ben Kaduk
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 7, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 7, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 7, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis-06  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-12  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  o draft-ietf-conex-destopt-12  (Experimental)
  o draft-ietf-lwig-ikev2-minimal-05  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet-07  (Informational)


1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Jari Arkko to talk to the Secretariat about hotel rooms for the IESG 
    retreat.
  o Benoit Claise to send the updated text of the IESG Statement on 
    Guidance on Face-to-Face and Virtual Interim Meetings to the 
    Secretariat for posting.
  o Ben Campbell to follow up with the SIPCORE Working Group chairs 
    about SIP IPv6 bugs.


IN PROGRESS:
  o Alia Atlas to draft an FAQ on interactions in the IETF.
  o Jari Arkko to establish the previously agreed facilitator(s) on the 
    ietf@ietf list.
  o Jari Arkko to talk to the current moderators of ietf@ietf list on 
    where to draw the line between guidance and moderation.

NEW:
  o Jari Arkko and Barry Leiba to produce the next version of the Note 
    Well and send it to the IESG and IAOC for review.
  o Jari Arkko to draft a note to the community on RFC formats and I-D 
    formats.
  o Benoit Claise to update the IESG statement on interim meetings to 
    include a point about archiving meeting announcements.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-40  - IETF stream
    NFS Version 4 Minor Version 2 (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 4
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Martin Stiemerling. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-dot-x-40  - IETF stream
    NFSv4 Minor Version 2 Protocol External Data Representation Standard
    (XDR) Description (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 4
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Martin Stiemerling. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530-migration-update-07  - IETF stream
    NFSv4.0 migration: Specification Update (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell and Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-cookies-09  - IETF stream
    Domain Name System (DNS) Cookies (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 4
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Joel Jaeggli. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

2.1.2 Returning items
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcsec-gssv3-15  - IETF stream
    Remote Procedure Call (RPC) Security Version 3 (Proposed Standard) - 
    1 of 1
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Stiemerling.*

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-lisp-threats-14  - IETF stream
    LISP Threats Analysis (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Deborah Brungard confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-undeployed-03  - IETF stream
    Moving Outdated TCP Extensions and TCP-related Documents to Historic
    and Informational Status (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-client-subnet-06  - IETF stream
    Client Subnet in DNS Queries (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-active-passive-05  - IETF stream
    Active and Passive Metrics and Methods (and everything in-between,
    or Hybrid) (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  o status-change-service-mappings-to-historic-00  - IETF stream
    Moving RFC 795 (Service Mappings) to Historic - 1 of 1
    Token: Brian Haberman

The IESG agreed to change the status of RFC 795 from Unknown to 
Historic.  The Secretariat will send a Document Action Announcement.

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  o conflict-review-williams-exp-tcp-host-id-opt-02
    IETF conflict review for draft-williams-exp-tcp-host-id-opt
      draft-williams-exp-tcp-host-id-opt-07
      Experimental Option for TCP Host Identification (ISE:
    Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document. 
The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Martin Stiemerling.

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile
      draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile-24
      An Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) Profile for 3GPP Mobile
    Devices (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Brian Haberman and Suresh Krishnan for RFC 
5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE 802.15.4e (6tisch) - 1 of 2
    Area: INT (Brian Haberman)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Brian 
Haberman.  The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
teleconference (February 4, 2016).

  o Web Authorization Protocol (oauth) - 2 of 2
    Area: SEC (Kathleen Moriarty)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Note Well (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action Item: Jari Arkko and Barry Leiba to produce the next version of 
the Note Well and send it to the IESG and IAOC for review.

   6.2 IAOC Selection (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session. 

   6.3 RFC formats and I-D formats (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Jari Arkko to draft a note to the community on RFC formats 
and I-D formats.

   6.4 Discussion of Secretariat Procedures to Support New Interim 
       Meeting Statement (Amy Vezza/Secretariat)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action item: Benoit Claise to update the IESG statement on interim 
meetings to include a point about archiving meeting announcements.

   6.5 [IANA #888605] designated experts for RFC-ietf-isis-prefix-
       attributes-04 (Amanda Baber / IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Chris Hopps, 
Hannes Gredler, and Les Ginsberg as the designated experts for 
RFC-ietf-isis-prefix-attributes.

7. Working Group news


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.