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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the March 27, 2014 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Richard Barnes (Mozilla) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure 
  Area
Mary Barnes / IAB Liaison
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Huawei) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area 
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area 
Ted Lemon (Nominum) / Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area 
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
--------------------------------- 
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor 
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IAB Chair
Nagendra Kumar / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

GUESTS
---------------------------------
Scott Bradner / Document shepherd for draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview

MINUTES 
--------------------------------- 
1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 20, 2014 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the February 20, 2014 Teleconferences were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 20, 2014 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-pwe3-dynamic-ms-pw-22  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-farrell-perpass-attack-06  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-olsrv2-tlv-extension-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-p2psip-drr-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-17  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ccamp-oam-configuration-fwk-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pcp-description-option-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-synchronization-09  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-stox-core-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ancp-mc-extensions-16  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-rmpr-optimization-01  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dane-registry-acronyms-04  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-20  (Informational)
    -09  (Informational)
  o draft-mcgrew-tls-aes-ccm-ecc-08  (Informational)
  o draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid-13  (Informational)
  o draft-housley-number-registries-04  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-siprec-architecture-12  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-clue-telepresence-requirements-07  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-lwig-terminology-07  (Informational)
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Barry Leiba to draft an update to the IESG Statement on Designating 
    RFCs as Historic.

  o Barry Leiba to provide an update for the IETF website to explain the 
    new alternative document shepherd write-up template.

UPDATED
  o Joel Jaeggli to write a note to ICANN indicating that the IESG is 
    considering allocating Special-use Top-Level Domain Names for Peer-
    to-Peer Applications and requesting feedback.

  o Ted Lemon to propose changes to the DISCUSS criteria to handle 
    pervasive monitoring.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-14  - IETF stream
    A Mechanism for Transporting User to User Call Control Information
    in SIP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 15
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Barry Leiba, and Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-storm-rdmap-ext-09  - IETF stream
    RDMA Protocol Extensions (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 15
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Martin Stiemerling. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-manet-smf-mib-11  - IETF stream
    Definition of Managed Objects for the Manet Simplified Multicast
    Framework Relay Set Process (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 15
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Brian Haberman.*

  o draft-ietf-netmod-ip-cfg-13  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for IP Management (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 15
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-multi-topology-11  - IETF stream
    LDP Extensions for Multi Topology (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 15
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-1323bis-20  - IETF stream
    TCP Extensions for High Performance (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 15
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Martin Stiemerling. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-netmod-system-mgmt-13  - IETF stream
    A YANG Data Model for System Management (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 
    15
    Token: Benoit Claise
    
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Brian Haberman, Barry Leiba, and 
Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-jcardcal-jcal-10  - IETF stream
    jCal: The JSON format for iCalendar (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 15
    Token: Pete Resnick

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-unknown-msg-07  - IETF stream
    Handling Unknown DHCPv6 Messages (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 15
    Token: Brian Haberman

Ted Lemon formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document 
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised 
by Brian Haberman.*

  o draft-ietf-radext-ieee802ext-11  - IETF stream
    RADIUS Attributes for IEEE 802 Networks (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 
    15
    Token: Benoit Claise
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Benoit Claise. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-appsawg-rrvs-header-field-09  - IETF stream
    The Require-Recipient-Valid-Since Header Field and SMTP Service
    Extension (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 15
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-special-purpose-labels-06  - IETF stream
    Allocating and Retiring Special Purpose MPLS Labels (Proposed
    Standard) - 12 of 15
    Token: Alia Atlas

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC 
Editor Note prepared by Alia Atlas.

  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-psc-itu-03  - IETF stream
    MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-TP) Linear Protection to Match the
    Operational Expectations of SDH, OTN and Ethernet Transport Network
    Operators (Proposed Standard) - 13 of 15
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Adrian Farrel confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos-11  - IETF stream
    Quality of Service Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6 (Proposed Standard)
    - 14 of 15
    Token: Brian Haberman 

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-appsawg-xml-mediatypes-09  - IETF stream
    XML Media Types (Proposed Standard) - 15 of 15
    Token: Barry Leiba

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Barry Leiba. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

2.1.2 Returning Items 
  o draft-ietf-pwe3-iccp-15  - IETF stream
    Inter-Chassis Communication Protocol for L2VPN PE Redundancy
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items 
  o draft-fairhurst-ipdvb-ule-iana-06  - IETF stream
    IANA Guidance for Managing the ULE Next-Header Registry (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be 
prepared by Brian Haberman. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.3 Status Changes
2.3.1 New Items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-dmm-requirements-15  - IETF stream
    Requirements for Distributed Mobility Management (Informational) - 1 
    of 4
    Token: Brian Haberman
    
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Barry Leiba, and Ted Lemon.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-testplan-rfc2680-04  - IETF stream
    Test Plan and Results for Advancing RFC 2680 on the Standards Track
    (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-multimob-pmipv6-source-08  - IETF stream
    Mobile Multicast Sender Support in Proxy Mobile IPv6 (PMIPv6)
    Domains (Experimental) - 3 of 4
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Brian Haberman. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-09  - IETF stream
    Trustworthy Location (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-15  - IETF stream
    An Overview of Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
    Tools (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Benoit Claise. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-abfab-arch-12  - IETF stream
    Application Bridging for Federated Access Beyond Web (ABFAB)
    Architecture (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-64share-09  - IETF stream
    Extending an IPv6 /64 Prefix from a 3GPP Mobile Interface to a LAN
    link (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ted Lemon.*

  o draft-ietf-eman-framework-16  - IETF stream
    Energy Management Framework (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

Benoit Claise formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points 
raised by Kathleen Moriarty.*

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-kaplan-insipid-session-id-04  - IETF stream
    A Session Identifier for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
    (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Richard Barnes. The Secretariat will send an individual 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-yourtchenko-cisco-ies-11  - IETF stream
    Cisco Specific Information Elements reused in IPFIX (Informational) 
    - 1 of 1
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

Benoit Claise formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an 
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

3.3 Status Changes
3.3.1 New Items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.4.1 New Items
  o conflict-review-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-01
    IETF conflict review for
    draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching
      draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-12
      Pre-standard Linear Protection Switching in MPLS-TP (ISE:
    Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor eventually publishing this 
document, but requests that it is not published as an RFC before draft-
ietf-mpls-tp-psc-itu and draft-ietf-mpls-psc-updates which, along with 
RFC 6378, contain an IETF consensus approach to the same topic. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC 
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Adrian Farrel.

  o conflict-review-melnikov-authentication-results-smime-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-melnikov-authentication-results-smime
      draft-melnikov-authentication-results-smime-09
      Authentication-Results Registration for S/MIME signature
    verification (ISE: Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Barry Leiba

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response 
prepared by Barry Leiba.

3.4.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4.3 For Action
  o conflict-review-boucadair-connectivity-provisioning-profile-00
    IETF conflict review for
    draft-boucadair-connectivity-provisioning-profile
      draft-boucadair-connectivity-provisioning-profile-03
      Connectivity Provisioning Profile (CPP) (ISE: Informational) - 1 
      of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Benoit Claise for RFC 5742 review.

  o conflict-review-avula-shwmp-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-avula-shwmp
      draft-avula-shwmp-01
      Secure Hybrid Wireless Mesh Protocol (SHWMP) (ISE: Experimental) - 
      1 of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Adrian Farrel for RFC 5742 review.

  o conflict-review-dunbar-armd-arp-nd-scaling-practices-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-dunbar-armd-arp-nd-scaling-practices
      draft-dunbar-armd-arp-nd-scaling-practices-07
      Practices for scaling ARP and ND for large data centers (ISE:
      Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Brian Haberman for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o DiffServ Applied to RTP Transports (dart) - 1 of 1
    Area: RAI (Richard Barnes)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (April 10, 2014).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues

6.1 Approve Designated Experts for Email Authentication Parameters 
    registries (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Murray Kucherawy 
<superuser@gmail.com> as the primary expert and Dave Crocker 
<dcrocker@bbiw.net> as the backup expert for the two Email 
Authentication Parameters registries (Email Authentication Methods and 
Email Authentication Response Codes).

6.2 [IANA #748098] Designated Expert for MIB - Transmission Group 
    (Amanda Baber and Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Dan Romascanu 
<dromasca@avaya.com> as the designated expert for the MIB - Transmission 
Group registry.

6.3 IESG Assignments (IESG Secretary)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG assigned the following 
positions:

 - IAB liaison: Alissa Cooper
 - NomCom liaison: Barry Leiba
 - Tools liaison: Pete Resnick
 - Mailing list moderators: Jari Arkko, Adrian Farrel, Stephen Farrell, 
   and Joel Jaeggli

6.4 Internet Governance Principles (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was removed from the agenda.

6.5 Expedited publication request for draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos (Brian 
    Haberman)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved expedited 
processing for draft-ietf-netext-pmip6-qos.

6.6 Request for an IPv6 Anycast Address [IANA #750509] (Amanda Baber - 
    IANA)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 Request for an IPv4 Option Number [IANA #749580] (Amanda Baber)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG declined to use IESG 
Approval for this registration, and therefore IETF Consensus or 
Standards Action must be used for this registration.

6.8 [IANA #751858] Designated Expert for RFC 7042 related registries 
    (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved adding Donald 
Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> as the primary expert for the RFC 7042-
related registries.  In addition, the IESG agreed with the proposed 
changes to the registration procedures.

6.9 Request for a TCP Option Kind Number [IANA #751850] (Amanda Baber - 
    IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG declined to use IESG 
Approval for this registration, and therefore IETF Consensus or 
Standards Action must be used for this registration.

6.10 Acceptance of media-type registration from standards organization 
    (Amanda Baber - IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG asks IANA to process this 
media-type request, and to add this organization to the 'Standards-
related organizations that have registered Media Types in the Standards Tree.' 

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.