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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the February 6, 2014 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
--------------------------------- 
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / incoming Routing Area
Richard Barnes (BBN) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area 
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure 
 Area 
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins (Huawei) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area 
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area 
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IAB Chair
Joel Jaeggli (Zynga) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area 
Ted Lemon (Nominum) / Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / incoming Security Area
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area 
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
--------------------------------- 
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / incoming Real-time Applications and 
  Infrastructure Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor 
Nagendra Kumar / Scribe
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

MINUTES 
--------------------------------- 
1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 23, 2014 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 23, 2014 Teleconferences were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 23, 2014 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-savi-send-11  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-dhc-option-guidelines-17  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-trill-o-pw-06  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6man-stable-privacy-addresses-17  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-res-gw-lis-discovery-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-soc-load-control-event-package-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ecrit-country-emg-urn-03  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-avtcore-leap-second-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mile-sci-13  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-labreqs-05  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-cdni-requirements-17  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-multipath-use-04  (Informational)
  o draft-housley-number-registries-03  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-avtcore-rtp-security-options-10  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-avt-srtp-not-mandatory-16  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-payload-rtp-howto-13  (Informational)
    
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Ted Lemon to write a note to ICANN indicating that the IESG is 
    considering allocating Special-use Top-Level Domain Names for Peer-
    to-Peer Applications and requesting feedback.

  o Ted Lemon to write up a document describing how the IESG should 
    figure out whether to do early allocations for special-use TLDs, and 
    present it to the IESG for discussion.

  o Pete Resnick and Adrian Farrel to draft for a detailed anti-
    harassment policy.

  o Barry Leiba to draft an update to the IESG Statement on Designating 
    RFCs as Historic.

NEW:
  o Jari Arkko to propose changes to the DISCUSS criteria to handle 
    pervasive monitoring.

  o Richard Barnes to draft a new Note Well proposal and circulate for 
    review.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-p2psip-rpr-11 
    An Extension to REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD) Protocol to
    Support Relay Peer Routing (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Stiemerling.*

  o draft-ietf-p2psip-drr-11 
    An Extension to REsource LOcation And Discovery (RELOAD) Protocol to
    Support Direct Response Routing (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Spencer Dawkins and Martin Stiemerling.*

  o draft-ietf-soc-overload-control-14 
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Overload Control (Internet
    Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Richard Barnes. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-qoe-13 
    RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Blocks for MOS
    Metric Reporting (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Ted Lemon, and Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-tls-applayerprotoneg-04 
    Transport Layer Security (TLS) Application Layer Protocol
    Negotiation Extension (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 9
    Token: Sean Turner

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to by 
completed by Sean Turner.  The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ancp-mc-extensions-14 
    Multicast Control Extensions for ANCP (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Ted Lemon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Brian Haberman.*

  o draft-ietf-stox-core-09 
    Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Architecture,
    Addresses, and Error Handling (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-stox-presence-07 
    Interworking between the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) and the
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Presence
    (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 9
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-clksrc-09 
    RTP Clock Source Signalling (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 9
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to 
be prepared by Richard Barnes. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

2.1.2 Returning Items    
  o draft-ietf-idr-rfd-usable-04 
    Making Route Flap Damping Usable (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an 
RFC Editor Note prepared by Stewart Bryant.

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-farrell-perpass-attack-05 
    Pervasive Monitoring is an Attack (Best Current Practice) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

Stephen Farrell formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise.*

Action item: Jari Arkko to propose changes to the DISCUSS criteria to 
handle pervasive monitoring.

2.3 Status Changes
2.3.1 New Items
  o status-change-5343-5590-5591-6353-to-internet-standard-01
    Progressing RFCs 5343, 5590, 5591, and 6353 to Internet Standard
    - 1 of 1
    Token: Sean Turner

The IESG agreed to change the status of RFCs 5343, 5590, 5591, and 6353 
from Draft Standard to Internet Standard.  The Secretariat will send 
a Protocol Action Announcement.

2.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
    
  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-cl-requirement-15 
    Requirements for Advanced Multipath in MPLS Networks (Informational) 
    - 1 of 3
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Stewart Bryant. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor 
Note.

  o draft-ietf-insipid-session-id-reqts-09 
    Requirements for an End-to-End Session Identification in IP-Based
    Multimedia Communication Networks (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Spencer Dawkins and Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-clue-telepresence-requirements-07 
    Requirements for Telepresence Multi-Streams (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Gonzalo Camarillo. The Secretariat will send a working 
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC 
Editor Note.

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items   
  o draft-crocker-id-adoption-07 
    Handling of Internet Drafts by IETF Working Groups (Informational) - 
    1 of 1
    Token: Barry Leiba
    
Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The 
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise.*

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 Status Changes
3.3.1 New Items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.4.1 New Items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4.3 For Action
  o conflict-review-saintandre-jabberid-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-saintandre-jabberid
      draft-saintandre-jabberid-12
      The Jabber-ID Header Field (ISE: Informational)
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Pete Resnick for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o TURN Revised and Modernized (tram) - 1 of 1
    Area: TSV (Spencer Dawkins)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (February 20, 2014).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Public Notary Transparency  (trans) - 1 of 1
    Area: SEC (Stephen Farrell)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of chairs to be provided by Stephen Farrell.  The Secretariat 
will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  o Transport Layer Security (tls) - 1 of 2
    Area: SEC (Sean Turner)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Network Configuration (netconf) - 2 of 2
    Area: OPS (Benoit Claise)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending additional text to be supplied by Benoit Claise.  The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the 
WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (February 20, 2014).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Confirming Nomcom's selection for the IAOC (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG confirmed the NomCom's 
selection of Chris Griffiths for the IAOC.

   6.2 Re-updating the note well after community feedback (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.  

Action item: Richard Barnes to draft a new Note Well proposal and 
circulate for review.

   6.3 Early IANA code point allocation for draft-agl-tls-padding (Sean 
       Turner)

The management issue was discussed.  

   6.4 Santa Monica I* Meeting (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed. 

   Executive Session: IESG's selection of IAOC member (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed in an Executive Session.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.