Minutes interim-2013-iesg-11 2013-06-13 15:30
minutes-interim-2013-iesg-11-201306131530-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 13, 2013 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Richard Barnes (BBN) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure
  Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Spencer Dawkins (Huawei) / Transport Area
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IAB Chair
Joel Jaeggli (Zynga) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area
Ted Lemon (Nominum) / Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

GUESTS
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Robert Sparks (Tools Team) / Present for 6.1 only

REGRETS
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Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 30, 2013 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes for the May 30, 2013 Teleconference were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 30, 2013 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-tcpm-experimental-options-06  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6021-bis-03  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-dh-checks-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-idr-as-private-reservation-05  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-6man-nd-extension-headers-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ipfix-flow-selection-tech-18  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-ospf-ipv4-embedded-ipv6-routing-14  (Informational)
  o draft-saintandre-impp-call-info-04  (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-eman-requirements-14  (Informational)
  o draft-sheffer-running-code-06  (Experimental)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  NONE

NEW:
  o Pete Resnick to draft an IESG statement on the preservation of IETF
    mail archives.

  o Pete Resnick to draft a response to the appeal on the RFC 6376
    status change.

  o Jari Arkko to correspond with Abdussalam Baryun regarding the
    potential appeal on draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-sipcore-sip-websocket-09  - IETF stream
    The WebSocket Protocol as a Transport for the Session Initiation
    Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Stephen Farrell, Barry Leiba, and Pete
Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-6man-impatient-nud-06  - IETF stream
    Neighbor Unreachability Detection is too impatient (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 3
    Token: Brian Haberman

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action
Announcement once Brian Haberman confirms that the announcement is ready
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-geopriv-held-measurements-07  - IETF stream
    Using Device-provided Location-Related Measurements in Location
    Configuration Protocols (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3
    Token: Richard Barnes

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Benoit Claise, Stephen Farrell, and Barry Leiba.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-eastlake-rfc5342bis-03  - IETF stream
    IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for
    IEEE 802 Parameters (Best Current Practice) - 1 of 1
    Token: Joel Jaeggli

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Barry Leiba and Ted Lemon.*

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.3 Status Changes
2.3.1 New Items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats-05  - IETF stream
    Security Threats for NHDP (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 Status Changes
3.3.1 New Items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.4.1 New Items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.4.3 For Action
  o conflict-review-irtf-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol
      draft-irtf-samrg-sam-baseline-protocol-04
      Application Layer Multicast Extensions to RELOAD (IRTF:
    Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Brian Haberman for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Large-Scale Measurement of Broadband Performance (lmap) - 1 of 1
    Token: Benoit Claise

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 27, 2013).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o SIP-TO-XMPP (stox) - 1 of 1
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to
the text of the charter to be supplied by Gonzalo Camarillo.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o IP Performance Metrics (ippm) - 1 of 1
    Token: Martin Stiemerling

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Mail archives and spam removal (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG will assist in the search
for missing historical working group mail archives.

Action item: Pete Resnick to draft an IESG statement on the preservation
of IETF mail archives.

   6.2 Appeal on RFC 6376 status change (Jari Arkko)

Russ Housley left the teleconference before this item was discussed. The
management issue was discussed.

Action item: Pete Resnick to draft a response to the appeal on the RFC
6376 status change.

   6.3 Potential Appeal and Correspondence on draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-
       threats (Adrian Farrel)

Russ Housley left the teleconference before this item was discussed. The
management issue was discussed.

Action item: Jari Arkko to correspond with Abdussalam Baryun regarding
the potential appeal on draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats.

   6.4 Document Shepherds and Writeups in the Datatracker (IESG
       Secretary)

The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will now fill in the
Document Shepherd field in the Datatracker in cases where the Working
Group Chair or Document Shepherd has not already done so.  The
Secretariat will no longer put Document Shepherd information in the IESG
Note field.

7. Working Group News


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.