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Date and time 2012-05-24 15:30
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minutes-interim-2012-iesg-10-201205241530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the May 24, 2012 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Richard Barnes / Scribe
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Brian Haberman (Johns Hopkins University) / Internet Area
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Barry Leiba (Huawei) / Applications Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Bernard Aboba (Microsoft) / IAB Chair
Wesley Eddy (MTI Systems) / Transport Area
Susan Hares / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Martin Stiemerling (NEC) / Transport Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 10, 2012 Teleconference were approved. The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 10, 2012 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-hokey-rfc5296bis-07  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-avtcore-ecn-for-rtp-08  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-softwire-gateway-init-ds-lite-08  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-ippm-rt-loss-05  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-fecframe-raptor-11  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-pwe3-packet-pw-04  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-tcpm-3517bis-02  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-pkix-pubkey-caps-07  (Informational)
o draft-ietf-dhc-subnet-alloc-13  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
o NONE

IN PROGRESS:
o Michelle Cotton, Brian Haberman and Ron Bonica to figure out how to
  fix the V6 Special Use Registry.

NEW:
o Barry Leiba and Pete Resnick to propose new text for the NOTE WELL
  statement.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
 o draft-ietf-pwe3-redundancy-bit-07
   Pseudowire Preferential Forwarding Status Bit (Proposed Standard) -
   1 of 3
   Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise and Adrian Farrel.*

 o draft-ietf-pkix-cmp-transport-protocols-19
   Internet X.509 Public Key Infrastructure -- HTTP Transport for CMP
   (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 3
   Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Wesley Eddy, Stephen Farrell and Martin Stiemerling.*

 o draft-ietf-netext-access-network-option-10
   Access Network Identifier (ANI) Option for Proxy Mobile IPv6
   (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3
   Token: Brian Haberman

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Ralph Droms, Stephen Farrell, Pete
Resnick and Robert Sparks.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
 NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
 NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
 o draft-snell-atompub-tombstones-15
   The Atom "deleted-entry" Element (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
   Token: Barry Leiba

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise and Pete Resnick.*

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
 o draft-ietf-ledbat-congestion-09
   Low Extra Delay Background Transport (LEDBAT) (Experimental) - 1 of
   3
   Token: Wesley Eddy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant, Benoit Claise and Ralph Droms.*

 o draft-ietf-pwe3-redundancy-08
   Pseudowire Redundancy (Informational) - 2 of 3
   Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise and Adrian Farrel.*

 o draft-ietf-ccamp-assoc-info-03
   Usage of The RSVP Association Object (Informational) - 3 of 3
   Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Adrian Farrel.

3.1.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
 NONE

3.2.2 Returning Items
 NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-v4opts-03
   IPv4 Options for ILNPv4 (Experimental) - 1 of 8
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (June 7, 2012)
by Ralph Droms.

 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6-03
   IPv6 Nonce Destination Option for ILNPv6 (Experimental) - 2 of 8
   Token: Brian Haberman

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an IESG Note prepared by Brian Haberman.

 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6-03
   ICMP Locator Update message for ILNPv6 (Experimental) - 3 of 8
   Token: Brian Haberman

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an IESG Note prepared by Brian Haberman.

 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv4-03
   ICMP Locator Update message for ILNPv4 (Experimental) - 4 of 8
   Token: Ralph Droms

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (June 7, 2012)
by Ralph Droms.

 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-eng-03
   ILNP Engineering Considerations (Experimental) - 5 of 8
   Token: Sean Turner

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an IESG Note prepared by Sean Turner.

 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-dns-03
   DNS Resource Records for ILNP (Experimental) - 6 of 8
   Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Ralph Droms.

 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-arch-03
   ILNP Architectural Description (Experimental) - 7 of 8
   Token: Adrian Farrel

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an IESG Note prepared by Adrian Farrel.

 o draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-adv-03
   Optional Advanced Deployment Scenarios for ILNP (Experimental) - 8
   of 8
   Token: Stephen Farrell

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an IESG Note prepared by Stephen Farrell.

3.3.2 Returning Items
 NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
 o Simple Cloud Identity Management (scim) - 1 of 1
   Token: Barry Leiba

The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for external
review at this time. The Secretariat will wait for instructions from
Barry Leiba.

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
 NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
 o Protocol to Access WS database (paws) - 1 of 1
   Token: Pete Resnick

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
 o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 1 of 3
   Token: Wesley Eddy

The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at
this time.  The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 7, 2012).

 o Network File System Version 4 (nfsv4) - 2 of 3
   Token: Martin Stiemerling

The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at
this time.  The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 7, 2012).

 o Multipath TCP (mptcp) - 3 of 3
   Token: Wesley Eddy

The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working group at
this time.  The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (June 7, 2012).

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
  6.1 Approve ICMPv6 Type allocation for draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6
      (Brian Haberman)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the ICMPv6 Type
code point allocation for draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-icmpv6.

  6.2 Approve IPv6 Destination Option allocation for
      draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-noncev6 (Brian Haberman)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the IPv6
Destination Option code point allocation for draft-irtf-rrg-ilnp-
noncev6.

  6.3 Replace designated expert for Well-Known URIs (Barry Leiba)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved replacing Eran
Hammer-Lahav with Mark Nottingham (mnot@mnot.net) as the designated
expert for the Well-Known URIs registry.

  6.4 Approve IPv4 Option Type numbers (Ralph Droms)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG did not approve the allocation.

  6.5 Approve ICMPv4 Type number assignment (Ralph Droms)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG did not approve the allocation.

  6.6 IPR disclosures on individual and WG I-Ds (Ralph Droms)

The management issue was discussed.

  6.7 NOTE WELL (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item:  Barry Leiba and Pete Resnick to propose new text for the
NOTE WELL statement.

7. Working Group News