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Date and time 2011-08-11 15:30
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minutes-interim-2011-iesg-15-201108111530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the August 11, 2011 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
---------------------------------
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure
   Area
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Wesley Eddy (MTI Systems) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Transport Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm)  / Applications Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Hannes Tschofenig (Nokia Siemens Networks) / IAB Liaison
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
---------------------------------
Bernard Aboba (Microsoft) / IAB Chair
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
Barry Leiba / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
---------------------------------
1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the July 14, 2011 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes for the July 14, 2011 Teleconference were
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the July 14, 2011 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-gellens-mime-bucket-bis-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-dime-extended-naptr-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-l3vpn-ibgp-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-l3vpn-mvpn-infra-addrs-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mpls-loss-delay-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-rdi-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-identifiers-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sidr-keyroll-08.txt (BCP)
 o draft-ietf-tls-rfc4347-bis-06.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-loss-delay-profile-04.txt (Informational)
 o draft-meadors-multiple-attachments-ediint-14.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Stephen Farrell to assist IANA with the SMI Security for Mechanism
   Codes Request [IANA #472222].

IN PROGRESS:
 o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.
 o The Secretariat to post all interim meeting minutes received to date
   and inform the IESG of any that are missing.

NEW
 o Robert Sparks to propose a solution for adding documents to the
   agenda and sending ballots at the same time.
 o Russ Housley to ask the IAOC about funding an additional snack break
   on Friday to accommodate a different Friday meeting schedule.
 o Sean Turner to ask the IAB about moving the joint IESG/IAB post-
   meeting wrap-up from breakfast to lunch on Friday.
 o Pete Resnick to draft an email to the working group chairs list
   regarding overriding I-D submission deadlines.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-mpls-p2mp-lsp-ping-17
    Detecting Data Plane Failures in Point-to-Multipoint Multiprotocol
    Label Switching (MPLS) - Extensions to LSP Ping (Proposed Standard)
    - 1 of 8
    Token: Stewart Bryant

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by David Harrington.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-enhanced-dsmap-10
    Mechanism for performing LSP-Ping over MPLS tunnels (Proposed
    Standard) - 2 of 8
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by David Harrington.*

  o draft-ietf-behave-ftp64-12
    An FTP ALG for IPv6-to-IPv4 translation (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8
    Token: David Harrington

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-asymm-bw-bidir-lsps-bis-03
    GMPLS Asymmetric Bandwidth Bidirectional Label Switched Paths (LSPs)
    (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 8
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-roll-of0-15
    RPL Objective Function Zero (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-mldp-recurs-fec-04
    Using Multipoint LDP when the Backbone has no Route to the Root
    (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 8
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-softwire-dslite-radius-ext-05
    RADIUS Extensions for Dual-Stack Lite (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 8
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, David Harrington and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-msec-gdoi-update-10
    The Group Domain of Interpretation (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8
    Token: Sean Turner

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Sean Turner. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-gutmann-cms-hmac-enc-05
    Using MAC-authenticated Encryption in the Cryptographic Message
    Syntax (CMS) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-10
    Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security (Informational) -
    1 of 3
    Token: David Harrington

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by David Harrington. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-decade-survey-05
    A Survey of In-network Storage Systems (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: David Harrington

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by David Harrington. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-opsawg-oam-overview-05
    An Overview of Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (OAM)
    Mechanisms (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-shiomoto-ccamp-switch-programming-05
    Advice on When It is Safe to Start Sending Data on Label Switched
    Paths Established Using RSVP-TE (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Stewart Bryant

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Stewart Bryant.

  o draft-burgin-ipsec-suiteb-profile-01
    Suite B Profile for Internet Protocol Security (IPsec)
    (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-law-rfc4869bis-01
    Suite B Cryptographic Suites for IPsec (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Sean Turner

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-forte-lost-extensions-07
    Location-to-Service Translation (LoST) Protocol Extensions
    (Experimental) - 4 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Robert Sparks. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  o draft-simpson-isis-ppp-unique-02
    Generation of Unique IS-IS System Identifiers (Experimental) - 1 of
    1
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The IESG recommends that the RFC Independent Submissions Editor does not
publish this document. The Secretariat will send a "do not publish"
message prepared by Stewart Bryant to the RFC Independent Submissions
Editor.

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  o Light-Weight Implementation Guidance (lwig) - 1 of 4
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Dan Romascanu.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Path Computation Element (pce) - 2 of 4
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Adrian Farrel.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o vCard and CardDAV (vcarddav) - 3 of 4
    Token: Peter Saint-Andre

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (bfd) - 4 of 4
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Adrian Farrel.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Approval of the application/inkml+xml media type (Peter Saint-
       Andre)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the
application/inkml+xml media type.


   6.2 Request for an appropriate action for RFC 1813 [IANA #296222]
       (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The NFSV4 chairs responded to IANA,
so the IESG took no action.

   6.3 Datatracker Ballot Sendout Feature (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Robert Sparks to propose a solution for adding documents to
the agenda and sending ballots at the same time.

   6.4 Friday Meeting Schedule (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Russ Housley to ask the IAOC about funding an additional
snack break on Friday to accommodate a different Friday meeting
schedule.

Action item: Sean Turner to ask the IAB about moving the joint IESG/IAB
post-meeting wrap-up from breakfast to lunch on Friday.

   6.5 Proposed tool change for draft deadline (Pete Resnick)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item:  Pete Resnick to draft an email to the working group chairs
list regarding overriding I-D submission deadlines.

   6.6 Refresh Tutorial and Discussion with the WG chairs on Documents
       Shepherding in Taipei (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News

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 * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for
 details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.