Minutes interim-2009-iesg-22 2009-12-03 16:30
minutes-interim-2009-iesg-22-200912031630-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 3, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Linden Labs) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the November 19, 2009 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the November 19, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the November 19, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-housley-iesg-rfc3932bis-12.txt (BCP)
  o draft-ietf-6man-overlap-fragment-03.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-avt-post-repair-rtcp-xr-07.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-eai-imap-utf8-09.txt (Experimental)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Jari Arkko to find an expert for eapsimaka-numbers (RFC 4187) [IANA
    #276892].

DELETED:
 o Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new Atom Link
   Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol and report back at the
   next telechat (December 3, 2009).  If the requesters do not
   respond, IANA advises to let it go as neither Lisa or IANA have
   gotten a response.

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Lars Eggert and Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one
    document updates another.

NEW
  NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-18.txt
    Using GSS-API Mechanisms in SASL: The GS2 Mechanism Family
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7
    Token: Pasi Eronen

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Pasi Eronen. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-l3vpn-05.txt
    Support for RSVP in Layer 3 VPNs (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 7
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-pim-sm-linklocal-09.txt
    Authentication and Confidentiality in PIM-SM Link-local Messages
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-af-alt-09.txt
    Support of address families in OSPFv3 (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Russ Housley and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-te-node-addr-07.txt
    Advertising a Router's Local Addresses in OSPF TE Extensions
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 7
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Ross Callon. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-ccamp-lsp-dppm-10.txt
    Label Switched Path (LSP) Dynamic Provisioning Performance Metrics
    in Generalized MPLS Networks (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-16ng-ipv4-over-802-dot-16-ipcs-06.txt
    Transmission of IPv4 packets over IEEE 802.16's IP Convergence
    Sublayer (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 7
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-dusseault-http-patch-16.txt
    PATCH Method for HTTP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

Lisa Dusseault formally recused herself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-klensin-ftp-registry-03.txt
    FTP Extension Registry (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (December 17,
2009) by Cullen Jennings.

  o draft-melnikov-imap-keywords-07.txt
    IMAP4 Keyword Registry (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (December 17,
2009) by Cullen Jennings.

2.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-csi-sndp-prob-03.txt
    Securing Neighbor Discovery Proxy Problem Statement (Informational)
    - 1 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-hip-native-api-09.txt
    Basic Socket Interface Extensions for Host Identity Protocol (HIP)
    (Experimental) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen, Cullen Jennings, Tim Polk
and Robert Sparks.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-combes-ipdvb-mib-rcs-08.txt
    The SatLabs Group DVB-RCS MIB (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-reschke-rfc2731bis-04.txt
    RFC 2731 ("Encoding Dublin Core Metadata in HTML") is Obsolete
    (Informational) - 2 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-hammer-oauth-07.txt
    The OAuth Core 1.0 Protocol (Informational) - 3 of 3
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Cullen Jennings, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

3.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor or IRTF
3.3.1 New Item
  o draft-wu-softwire-4over6-03.txt
    4over6 Transit Solution using IP Encapsulation and MP-BGP
    Extensions (Experimental) - 1 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor.

  o draft-irtf-p2prg-rtc-security-05.txt
    Security Issues and Solutions in Peer-to-peer Systems for Realtime
    Communications (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRTF
that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Robert Sparks

3.3.2 Returning Item
  o draft-levy-sip-diversion-10.txt
    Diversion Indication in SIP (Historic) - 1 of 1
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note and an IESG Note prepared by
Robert Sparks.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Multiple AoR reachabiliTy InformatioN Indication (martini) - 1 of 1
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text to be provided by Cullen Jennings.  The Secretariat will send
a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.
The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG
Teleconference (December 17. 2009).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o HTTP State Management Mechanism (httpstate) - 1 of 1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
edits to the text and the addition of chairs to be provided by Lisa
Dusseault.  The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

 6.1 RIM IPR disclosure and application/3gpp-ims+xml media type
registration (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.2 Document Authorship as IESG Statement (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.3 rfcxx99 documents (Sandy Ginoza)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG agreed that rfcxx99
documents do not require 3932 review.

Action item:


7. Working Group News

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