Minutes interim-2009-iesg-19 2009-10-08 15:30
minutes-interim-2009-iesg-19-200910081530-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 8, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 24, 2009 Teleconference were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 24, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the September 24, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-dnsext-dnssec-rsasha256-14.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-l3vpn-v6-ext-communities-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-gmpls-lsp-reroute-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-pcn-baseline-encoding-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-sieve-mime-loop-09.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-ietf-bmwg-mpls-forwarding-meth-06.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Lars Eggert to find someone to review the ANSI C12.22-2008 / IEEE
    P1703-2009 / MC1222 Application Layer messages over IP document.
  o Russ Housley to work with the Secretariat to come up with an
    implementation plan for tracking changes to working group charters.
  o Lisa Dusseault to investigate the request to add a new Atom Link
    Relation type for the PubSubHubbub protocol and report back at the
    next telechat (October 22, 2009).

NEW
  o Lars Eggert and Ron Bonica to propose text for determining when one
    document updates another.

2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-tcpm-tcpsecure-12.txt
    Improving TCP's Robustness to Blind In-Window Attacks (Proposed
    Standard) -  1 of 8
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-mboned-lightweight-igmpv3-mldv2-05.txt
    Lightweight IGMPv3 and MLDv2 Protocols (BCP) - 2 of 8
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Lars Eggert and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-resumption-08.txt
    IKEv2 Session Resumption (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-pmol-sip-perf-metrics-04.txt
    SIP End-to-End Performance Metrics (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 8
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lisa Dusseault, Lars Eggert, Cullen Jennings and
Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-dime-diameter-cmd-iana-01.txt
    Updated IANA Considerations for Diameter Command Code Allocations
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8
    Token: Ron Bonica

Dan Romascanu formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Ron Bonica. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-pre-evaluation-00.txt
    Preliminary Evaluation of RFC 1652 for Advancement to Full Standard
    (Standard) - 6 of 8
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (October 22, 2009)
by Russ Housley.

  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-requirements-03.txt
    Requirements for OAM in MPLS Transport Networks (Proposed Standard)
    - 7 of 8
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica, Lars Eggert, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-nm-req-05.txt
    MPLS TP Network Management Requirements (Proposed Standard) - 8 of
    8
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Russ Housley and Dan Romascanu.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
    NONE

2.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-simple-interdomain-scaling-analysis-08.txt
    Presence Interdomain Scaling Analysis for SIP/SIMPLE
    (Informational) - 1 of 9
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-speermint-requirements-07.txt
    SPEERMINT Requirements for SIP-based Session Peering
    (Informational) - 2 of 9     Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov, Dan Romascanu and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-speermint-voip-consolidated-usecases-14.txt
    VoIP SIP Peering Use Cases (Informational) - 3 of 9
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-roll-home-routing-reqs-08.txt
    Home Automation Routing Requirements in Low Power and Lossy
    Networks (Informational) - 4 of 9
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Ross Callon, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen,
Cullen Jennings and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-msec-tesla-for-alc-norm-08.txt
    Use of TESLA in the ALC and NORM Protocols (Experimental) - 5 of 9
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-lf-conv-frmwk-06.txt
    A Framework for Loop-free Convergence (Informational) - 6 of 9
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Ross Callon. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-rtgwg-ipfrr-framework-12.txt
    IP Fast Reroute Framework (Informational) - 7 of 9
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev2-ipv6-config-02.txt
    IPv6 Configuration in IKEv2 (Experimental) - 8 of 9
    Token: Tim Polk

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (October 22, 2009)
by Jari Arkko.

  o draft-ietf-eai-downgraded-display-02.txt
    Displaying Downgraded Messages for Email Address
    Internationalization (Experimental) - 9 of 9
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-harkins-emu-eap-pwd-10.txt
    EAP Authentication Using Only A Password (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Cullen Jennings and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-iana-ipv4-examples-02.txt
    IPv4 Address Blocks Reserved for Documentation (Informational) - 2
    of 2
    Token: Russ Housley

Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor or IRTF
3.3.1 New Item
  o draft-keromytis-keynote-x509-02.txt
    X.509 Key and Signature Encoding for the KeyNote Trust Management
    System (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Tim Polk

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Tim Polk.

3.3.2 Returning Item
  o draft-templin-ranger-08.txt
    Routing and Addressing in Next-Generation EnteRprises (RANGER)
    (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

  o draft-irtf-mobopts-mmcastv6-ps-08.txt
    Multicast Mobility in MIPv6: Problem Statement and Brief Survey
    (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an RFC Editor Note and an IESG Note prepared by Jari Arkko.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Internet Area Working Group (intarea) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for external
review at this time. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (October 22, 2009).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Multipath TCP (mptcp) - 1 of 1
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
additional of chairs to be provided by Magnus Westerlund  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
    NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 1 of 2
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Access Node Control Protocol (ancp) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

 6.1 Link Relations Request [IANA #259813] (Lisa Dusseault)

The management issue was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference
(October 22, 2009).

 6.2 Review of application/3gpp-ims+xml Media Type (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the
application/3gpp-ims+xml Media Type.

 6.3 SDO Turf Wars and Cooperation Projects (Adrian Farrel)

The management issue was deferred to the next informal IESG
Teleconference (October 17, 2009).

6.4 Smart Grid (Tim Polk)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News

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