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minutes-interim-2009-iesg-13-200907021530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the July 2, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
---------------------------------

Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lisa Dusseault (Messaging Architects) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Oran (Cisco) / IAB Liaison
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
---------------------------------
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the June 18, 2009 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the June 18, 2009 Teleconference were
Approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the June 18, 2009 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-dkim-ssp-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-ippm-more-twamp-02.txt (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-softwire-security-requirements-09.txt (Proposed
    Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
  o draft-eronen-enterprise-number-documentation-01.txt (Informational)
  o draft-ietf-lemonade-streaming-13.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Cullen Jennings to send comments on draft-ford-behave-top to the
    RFC Editor.

DELETED:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
  o Jari Arkko to continue discussion with Henrik Levkowetz about
    enabling proper filtering to email aliases existing on the tools
    server.
  o Ralph Droms will talk to Stewart Cheshire about reserving EDNSO
    option code 4 in the dns-parameters registry.

NEW:
  NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-avt-rtcpssm-18.txt
    RTCP Extensions for Single-Source Multicast Sessions with Unicast
    Feedback (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 12
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc2581bis-05.txt
    TCP Congestion Control (Draft Standard) - 2 of 12
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-adslmib-vdsl2-07.txt
    Definitions of Managed Objects for Very High Speed Digital
    Subscriber Line 2 (VDSL2) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 12
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-mipshop-mos-dns-discovery-06.txt
    Locating IEEE 802.21 Mobility Servers using DNS (Proposed Standard)
    - 4 of 12
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov, Dan Romascanu, Robert Sparks and
Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-mps-02.txt
    RTP Payload Format for Elementary Streams with MPEG Surround multi-
    channel audio (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 12
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-dime-qos-attributes-12.txt
    Quality of Service Attributes for Diameter (Proposed Standard) - 6
    of 12
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Adrian Farrel and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-geopriv-civic-address-recommendations-02.txt
    Considerations for Civic Addresses in PIDF-LO - Guidelines and IANA
    Registry Definition (BCP) - 7 of 12
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-sip-body-handling-06.txt
    Message Body Handling in the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)
    (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 12
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Robert Sparks.

  o draft-ietf-ospf-dynamic-hostname-04.txt
    Dynamic Hostname Exchange Mechanism for OSPF (Proposed Standard) -
    9 of 12
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-l2tpext-circuit-status-extensions-04.txt
    L2TPv3 Extended Circuit Status Values (Proposed Standard) - 10 of
    12
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-sipcore-subnot-etags-02.txt
    An Extension to Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Events for
    Conditional Event Notification (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 12
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lisa Dusseault and Cullen Jennings.*

  o draft-ietf-pwe3-vccv-bfd-05.txt
    Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) for the Pseudowire Virtual
    Circuit Connectivity Verification (VCCV) (Proposed Standard) - 12
    of 12
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Magnus Westerlund.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-dusseault-impl-reports-03.txt
    Guidance on Interoperation and Implementation Reports (BCP) - 1 of
    2
    Token: Tim Polk

Lisa Dusseault and Robert Sparks formally recused themselves from the
discussion.  The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-dawkins-nomcom-dont-wait-03.txt
    Nominating Committee Process: Earlier Announcement of Open
    Positions and Solicitation of Volunteers (BCP) - 2 of 2
    Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms.*

2.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-l7-lcp-ps-09.txt
    GEOPRIV Layer 7 Location Configuration Protocol; Problem Statement
    and Requirements (Informational) - 1 of 9
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-pwe3-ms-pw-arch-06.txt
    An Architecture for Multi-Segment Pseudowire Emulation Edge-to-Edge
    (Informational) - 2 of 9
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-frwk-10.txt
    Framework for PCE-Based Inter-Layer MPLS and GMPLS Traffic
    Engineering (Informational) - 3 of 9
    Token: Ross Callon

Adrian Farrel formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Ross Callon.

  o draft-ietf-opsec-blackhole-urpf-04.txt
    Remote Triggered Black Hole filtering with uRPF (Informational) - 4
    of 9
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-dccp-ccid4-04.txt
    Profile for Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP) Congestion
    ID 4: TCP-Friendly Rate Control for Small Packets (TFRC-SP)
    (Experimental) - 5 of 9
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-smime-new-asn1-05.txt
    New ASN.1 Modules for CMS and S/MIME (Informational) - 6 of 9
    Note: Sean Turner (turners@ieca.com) is the document shepherd.
    Token: Tim Polk

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Tim Polk. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-ancp-security-threats-07.txt
    Security Threats and Security Requirements for the Access Node
    Control Protocol (ANCP) (Informational) - 7 of 9
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-dccp-quickstart-05.txt
    Quick-Start for Datagram Congestion Control Protocol (DCCP)
    (Experimental) - 8 of 9
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-pkix-tac-04.txt
    Traceable Anonymous Certificate (Experimental) - 9 of 9
    Token: Tim Polk

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Tim Polk.

3.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-livingood-woundy-p4p-experiences-10.txt
    Comcast's ISP Experiences In a P4P Technical Trial (Informational)
   - 1 of 1
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Lisa Dusseault. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

3.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via IRTF
3.3.1 New Item
  NONE
3.3.2 Returning Item
  o draft-irtf-mobopts-location-privacy-solutions-15.txt
    Mobile IPv6 Location Privacy Solutions (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. Jari
Arkko will prepare a "no problem" message, and forward it to the
Secretariat to send to the IRTF.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
 o STORage Maintenance (storm) - 1 of 1
    Token: Lars Eggert

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the
addition of chairs to the charter to be provided by Lars Eggert.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  o Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave) - 1 of 3
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

The IESG decided not to approve the rechartering of the working group
at this time.  The Secretariat will await further instructions
regarding the charter of behave.

  o IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) - 2 of 3
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o DNS Extensions (dnsext) - 3 of 3
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will
place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (July 16,
2009).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Site Multihoming by IPv6 Intermediation (shim6) - 1 of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Diameter Maintenance and Extensions (dime) - 2 of 3
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Integrated Security Model for SNMP (isms) - 3 of 3
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issues
  6.1 RETURNING: Referencing RFCs from ITU-T Recommendations (Adrian
    Farrel)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG had no objection to the
proposed text for referencing RFCs from ITU-T recommendations.

  6.2 Liaison to Zigbee Alliance (Adrian Farrel)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News We Can Use

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* Please see the ID Tracker
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on documents that are under discussion by the IESG