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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 29, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Ward (Cisco) / Routing Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
---------------------------------

1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 15, 2009 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 15, 2009 Teleconference were
approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 15, 2009 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-freed-sieve-ihave-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-avt-smpte-rtp-15.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-bulk-leasequery-06.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-isis-wg-extlsp-05.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mip4-dsmipv4-10.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpcrdma-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sieve-managesieve-09.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sip-rph-new-namespaces-04.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-uto-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-kucherawy-sender-auth-header-20.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-dasgupta-ccamp-path-comp-analysis-02.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-enum-experiences-11.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-ippm-delay-var-as-02.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-sip-media-security-requirements-09.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-soft-errors-09.txt (Informational)
 o draft-santoni-timestampeddata-04.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Russ Housley to ask IETF counsel about prohibiting deletion of IPR
   disclosures.
 o Ron Bonica to draft a strawman for the IESG Statement regarding
   work that is chartered but is considered overcome by events before
   it reaches the IESG for consideration.

DELETED:
 NONE

IN PROGRESS:
 o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
 o Dave Ward to write up a project plan to document RSYNC
 o Russ Housley and Dave Ward to write the BCP 115 Exception Last
   Call.

NEW:
 o Russ Housley to send the draft IESG statement on chartered work
   overcome by events before IESG consideration to the IETF community
   for comment.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-geopriv-pdif-lo-profile-14.txt
    GEOPRIV PIDF-LO Usage Clarification, Considerations and
    Recommendations (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 13
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-mext-nemo-mib-05.txt
    NEMO Management Information Base (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 13
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Chris Newman.*

  o draft-ietf-radext-management-authorization-06.txt
    Remote Authentication Dial-In User Service (RADIUS) Authorization
    for Network Access Server (NAS) Management (Proposed Standard) -
    3 of 13
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-pkix-rfc4055-update-01.txt
    Update for RSAES-OAEP Algorithm Parameters (Proposed Standard) -
    4 of 13
    Token: Pasi Eronen

Russ Housley and Tim Polk formally recused themselves from the
discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko.*

  o draft-ietf-softwire-mesh-framework-05.txt
    Softwire Mesh Framework (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 13
    Token: Mark Townsley

David Ward formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-softwire-encaps-safi-04.txt
    BGP Encapsulation SAFI and BGP Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute
    (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 13
    Token: Mark Townsley

David Ward formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Jari Arkko, Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-softwire-encaps-ipsec-01.txt
    BGP IPSec Tunnel Encapsulation Attribute (Proposed Standard) - 7
    of 13
    Token: Mark Townsley

David Ward formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Jari Arkko, Pasi Eronen and Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-softwire-bgp-te-attribute-04.txt
    BGP Traffic Engineering Attribute (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 13
    Token: Mark Townsley

David Ward formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by
Mark Townsley. The Secretariat will send a working group submission
Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-softwire-v4nlri-v6nh-02.txt
    Advertising IPv4 Network Layer Reachability Information with an
    IPv6 Next Hop (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 13
    Token: Mark Townsley

David Ward formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by
Mark Townsley. The Secretariat will send a working group submission
Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-tls-psk-new-mac-aes-gcm-05.txt
    Pre-Shared Key Cipher Suites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)
    with SHA-256/384 and AES Galois Counter Mode (Proposed Standard)
    - 10 of 13
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Pasi Eronen.

  o draft-ietf-avt-post-repair-rtcp-xr-04.txt
    Post-Repair Loss RLE Report Block Type for RTCP XR (Proposed
    Standard) - 11 of 13
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document was removed from the agenda by Cullen Jennings prior to
the start of the teleconference.

  o draft-ietf-mmusic-file-transfer-mech-10.txt
    A Session Description Protocol (SDP) Offer/Answer Mechanism to
    Enable File Transfer (Proposed Standard) - 12 of 13
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko and Chris Newman.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-04.txt
    Dissemination of flow specification rules (Proposed Standard) -
    13 of 13 Token: David Ward

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (February 12,
2009) by Cullen Jennings.

2.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-11.txt
    IEEE 802.21 Mobility Services Framework Design (MSFD) (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen and Russ Housley.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-stjohns-sipso-06.txt
    Common Architecture Label IPv6 Security Option (CALIPSO)
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 4
    Token: Tim Polk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Ron Bonica, Lars Eggert, Pasi Eronen and
Russ Housley.*

  o draft-hoffman-dac-vbr-05.txt
    Vouch By Reference (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 4
    Token: Russ Housley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lisa Dusseault, Cullen Jennings, Chris Newman and Dan
Romascanu.*

  o draft-loreto-simple-im-srv-label-03.txt
    Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) Registration of
    Instant Messaging and Presence DNS SRV RRs for the Session
    Initiation Protocol (SIP) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4
    Token: Jon Peterson

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Jon Peterson. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-melnikov-sieve-imapext-metadata-08.txt
    The Sieve mail filtering language - extensions for checking
    mailbox status and accessing mailbox metadata (Proposed Standard)
    - 4 of 4
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document was approved by the IESG, with the note that this is
actually a working group submission. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Lisa Dusseault.

2.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-speermint-terminology-17.txt
    SPEERMINT Terminology (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Jon Peterson

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-trill-prob-05.txt
    Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (TRILL): Problem and
    Applicability Statement (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Mark Townsley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Dan Romascanu and David Ward.*

  o draft-ietf-pim-rpf-vector-08.txt
    The RPF Vector TLV (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: David Ward

The discussion for the document was deferred.  The document was placed
on the agenda for the February 12, 2009 IESG Teleconference due to the
change in intended status for the document (Informational to Proposed
Standard).

  o draft-ietf-tls-ecdhe-psk-05.txt
    ECDHE_PSK Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security (TLS)
    (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-andreasen-sipping-rfc3603bis-07.txt
    Private Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Proxy-to-Proxy
    Extensions for Supporting the PacketCable Distributed Call
    Signaling Architecture (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Cullen Jennings.

3.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via IRTF
3.3.1 New Item
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3.3.3 For Action
  o draft-irtf-routing-history-09.txt
    Analysis of Inter-Domain Routing Requirements and History
    (Historic) - 1 of 2
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was assigned to Ross Callon.

  o draft-irtf-routing-reqs-10.txt
    A Set of Possible Requirements for a Future Routing Architecture
    (Historic) - 2 of 2
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was assigned to Ross Callon.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Network Configuration (netconf) - 1 of 2
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o IP Performance Metrics (ippm) - 2 of 2
    Token: Lars Eggert

The IESG decided not to approve the rechartering of the working
group at this time.  The Secretariat will await further instructions
from Lars Eggert regarding the charter of IPPM.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
  6.1 IESG Statement regarding chartered work overcome by events
      before IESG consideration (Ron Bonica)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG agreed to send the draft
IESG Statement to the IETF community for comment.

Action Item:  Russ Housley to send the draft IESG statement on
chartered work overcome by events before IESG consideration to the IETF
community for comment.

  6.2 draft-cam-winget-eap-fast-provisioning-10.txt (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  A proposed note for the IANA
considerations section of draft-cam-winget-eap-fast-provisioning will
be sent to the EMU working group for review.

7. Working Group News We Can Use


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(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
on documents that are under discussion by the IESG