Minutes interim-2009-iesg-02 2009-01-15 16:30
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 15, 2009 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Ward (Cisco) / Routing Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the January 8, 2009 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the January 8, 2009 Teleconference were
approved as amended.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes
in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the January 8, 2009 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-daboo-imap-annotatemore-17.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-dime-mip6-integrated-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sip-sips-09.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-korhonen-mip4-service-08.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Dan Romascanu to draft an IESG Statement recommending that proposed
   status for IETF documents reserving the values, numbers, addresses,
   etc. for example purposes should be BCP.

DELETED:
 NONE

IN PROGRESS:
 o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
 o Dave Ward to write up a project plan to document RSYNC
 o Russ Housley and Dave Ward to write the BCP 115 Exception Last
   Call.
 o Ron Bonica to draft a strawman for the IESG Statement regarding
   work that is chartered but is considered overcome by events before
   it reaches the IESG for consideration.

NEW:
 o Russ Housley to ask IETF counsel about prohibiting deletion of IPR
   disclosures.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-pce-of-06.txt
    Encoding of Objective Functions in the Path Computation Element
    Communication Protocol (PCEP) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 5
    Token: Ross Callon

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert.*

  o draft-ietf-pce-dste-02.txt
    Diff-Serv Aware Class Type Object for Path Computation Element
    Communication Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 5
    Token: Ross Callon

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor note prepared by Ross Callon.

  o draft-ietf-softwire-hs-framework-l2tpv2-10.txt
    Softwire Hub & Spoke Deployment Framework with L2TPv2 (Proposed
    Standard) -  3 of 5
    Token: Mark Townsley

David Ward formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Pasi Eronen, Russ Housley, Tim Polk and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-l2tpext-tdm-06.txt
    Layer Two Tunneling Protocol - Setup of TDM Pseudowires (Proposed
    Standard) - 4 of 5
    Token: Mark Townsley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

  o draft-ietf-sieve-managesieve-07.txt
    A Protocol for Remotely Managing Sieve Scripts (Proposed Standard)
    - 5 of 5
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

2.1.2 Returning Item
  o draft-ietf-mipshop-mstp-solution-11.txt
    IEEE 802.21 Mobility Services Framework Design (MSFD) (Proposed
    Standard) -  1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item
  o draft-hoffman-dac-vbr-05.txt
    Vouch By Reference (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Russ Housley

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (January 29, 2009)
by Cullen Jennings.

2.2.2 Returning Item
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
  o draft-ietf-ipdvb-sec-req-09.txt
    Security requirements for the Unidirectional Lightweight
    Encapsulation (ULE) protocol (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Mark Townsley

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ospf-manet-mdr-04.txt
    MANET Extension of OSPF using CDS Flooding (Experimental) - 2 of 4
    Token: David Ward

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-manet-mpr-03.txt
    OSPF MPR Extension for Ad Hoc Networks (Experimental) - 3 of 4
    Token: David Ward

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ospf-manet-or-01.txt
    Extensions to OSPF to Support Mobile Ad Hoc Networking
    (Experimental) - 4 of 4
    Token: David Ward

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Tim Polk.*

3.1.2 Returning Item
 NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
  o draft-mammoliti-l2tp-accessline-avp-05.txt
    Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol (L2TP) Access Line Information Attribute
    Value Pair (AVP) Extensions (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Mark Townsley

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

3.2.2 Returning Item
 NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item
 NONE

3.3.2 Returning Item
 NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
 NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
 NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
  6.1 Deleted IPR Statements (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.  The secretariat will change the
distribution of IPR disclosures so that working groups are copied on
IPR relating to working group items.  The secretariat will also set up
a new email list for IPR announcements.

Action Item: Russ Housley to ask IETF counsel about prohibiting
deletion of IPR disclosures.

  6.2 IESG Statement regarding chartered work overcome by events before
      IESG consideration (Ron Bonica)

The management issue was deferred to the next teleconference (January
29, 2009).

  6.3 Draft Statement on BCP Status for Examples (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the statement on
BCP Status for Examples.

  6.4 Status update on 5378 problem (Cullen Jennings)

The management issue was discussed.

  6.5 Discussion of potential retreat dates (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG discussed tentative dates
and locations for the IESG retreat.

7. Working Group News We Can Use


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* Please see the ID Tracker
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
on documents that are under discussion by the IESG