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Date and time 2008-09-11 15:30
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minutes-interim-2008-iesg-17-200809111530-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the September 11, 2008 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
Pasi Eronen (Nokia) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Dave Ward (Cisco) / Routing Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

REGRETS
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Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
Spencer Dawkins (Huawei (USA)) / Scribe
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia

1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the August 28, 2008 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the August 28, 2008 Teleconference were
approved.  The Secretariat will place the narrative minutes in the
public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the August 28, 2008 IESG Teleconference

1.2.1 Protocol Actions

o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-20.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-jpeg2000-beam-11.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-mpls-number-0-bw-te-lsps-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sipping-capacity-attribute-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sipping-consent-format-08.txt (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-sipping-pending-additions-05.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions

o draft-ietf-enum-softswitch-req-04.txt (Informational)
o draft-ietf-speermint-consolidated-presence-im-usecases-05.txt
  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:

NONE

DELETED:

NONE

IN PROGRESS:

o Magnus Westerlund to draft an IESG Statement on BCP 32.
o David Ward to assist IANA on the appropriate notation format for the
  4-byte (32-bit) AS numbers.
o Jari Arkko to assist IANA on registration procedures for ARP Hardware
  Type.

NEW:

NONE

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Item

o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-atrac-family-18.txt
RTP Payload Format for Adaptive TRansform Acoustic Coding (ATRAC)
    Family (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Cullen Jennings

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Chris Newman, Tim Polk and Magnus
Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-sieve-refuse-reject-07.txt
    Sieve Email Filtering: Reject and Extended Reject Extensions
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Pasi Eronen, Russ Housley and Tim Polk.*

2.1.2 Returning Item

  o draft-ietf-sipping-service-examples-15.txt
    Session Initiation Protocol Service Examples (BCP) - 1 of 2
    Token: Jon Peterson

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-guidelines-10.txt
    Unicast UDP Usage Guidelines for Application Designers (BCP) - 2 of
    2
    Token: Magnus Westerlund

Lars Eggert formally recused himself from the discussion. The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by David Ward.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Item

  o draft-reschke-webdav-search-18.txt
    Web Distributed Authoring and Versioning (WebDAV) SEARCH (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Chris Newman

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be
prepared by Chris Newman. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

2.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Item
    NONE

3.1.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Item
    NONE

3.2.2 Returning Item
    NONE

3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
3.3.1 New Item

  o draft-leung-mip4-proxy-mode-09.txt
    WiMAX Forum/3GPP2 Proxy Mobile IPv4 (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an RFC Editor Note, an IESG Note, and an IANA Note
prepared by Jari Arkko.

  o draft-hajjeh-tls-identity-protection-06.txt
    Credential Protection Ciphersuites for Transport Layer Security
    (TLS) (Experimental) - 2 of 3
    Token: Pasi Eronen

The IESG recommends that the RFC Editor does not publish this document.
The Secretariat will send a "do not publish" message prepared by Pasi
Eronen to the RFC Editor.

  o draft-templin-seal-23.txt
    The Subnetwork Encapsulation and Adaptation Layer (SEAL)
    (Experimental) - 3 of 3
    Token: Mark Townsley

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Editor that includes an IESG Note prepared by Mark Townsley.

3.3.2 Returning Item
    NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
    NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
    NONE
4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

  o Softwires (softwire) - 1 of 1
    Token: Mark Townsley

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter.
The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter announcement, with a
separate message to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the
WG on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference (September 25, 2008).

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

  o Operational Security Capabilities for IP Network Infrastructure
    (opsec) - 1 of 1
    Token: Ron Bonica

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We can use

6. Management Issue

 6.1 Review of arp-parameters request 1 of 2 [IANA #185250] (Michelle
     Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the requested allocation.

 6.2 Review of arp-parameters request 2 of 2 [IANA #183428] (Michelle
     Cotton)

The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will place the
management issue on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference
(September 25, 2008).

 6.3 Transfer of the MIB work from HUBMIB to the IEEE 802.3 (Dan
     Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.4 Large Interim Mtgs (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed. The Secretariat will place the
management issue on the agenda for the next IESG teleconference
(September 25, 2008).

 6.5 Question regarding expert review and independent submissions [IANA
     #189622] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.6 IESG process change to action approval (Chris Newman)

The management issue was discussed.

 6.7 Select expert for EAP Type Code Allocation (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Joe Salowey as the
designated expert for EAP Type Code Allocation.

 6.8 Executive Session: Appeal from JFC (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Agenda Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details
on documents that are under discussion by the IESG